CANE POLE CRAZY

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Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on March 18, 2014 at 2:45am

Good to see you posting Johnny

Comment by Joe Angelucci on March 17, 2014 at 9:06pm

Love that monster, small is beautiful. I look forward to seeing your offerings. Hope you offer a nice 6 -7 foot telescopic pole ( 1.5 oz or less). That's the sweet spot for micro fishing.

Comment by Johnny wilkins on March 17, 2014 at 8:55pm

Trophy.

Joe, you won't have to pay $10 a float for much longer.  I fish micro for big fish too. 

Micro = Mondo - I destroy local anglers in trout fishing and they think my spot is the best spot. The joke is on them when they crowd in and still can't catch with their 3 gram and 8 gram floats. I am fishing .75 gram or .5 gram sometimes and have caught trout on the pole.

Good fishing is coming to our continent it is almost ready.

1 gram floats are a very good start vs. the shameful stuff I read out there and see at seminars. The pole section will dominate and some may never join up in favor of $275 rods and $300 reels - they might never know true fishing joy.

Pole Fishing is unmatched. 

Comment by Joe Angelucci on March 17, 2014 at 8:45pm

 I have not been able to find anything under 1.5 grams in the US . In fact, I've been patting myself on the back finding these . I know the UK  runs down to about .4 gram but have a problem paying $10.00 a float with shipping. Guess I'll have to re think that. I'm very interested in the poles. When you get a chance, google micro fishing and you will understand why. 

Comment by Johnny wilkins on March 17, 2014 at 8:34pm

#6 or #8 is as fine - anything less is really tough to put on typical lines.

If we go with 1 gram which is the smaller float a #6 or #8 is 1/10th of the float.

It is this shot if this is your lowest shot on the line that makes the tip of the float react. With the long, skinny tip vs. the stubby tip you get reaction from the fish take- it moves "faster" - "easier" with less force.

#6 = .1 gram
#8 = .06 gram

You can also try (2) .06 gram spaced apart. Shot patterns are infinite.

Focus on the lowest shot being your "trap switch"  - the rest of the shot function as your weight to cast - they need to live up by the float for casting. They can be spread along the line if using a pole - fixed pole float style.

The advantage we have as pole anglers is to adjust this shot more.  We don't have to have the shot up by the float. 

As you want to get is a good shot for that red section of the float antennae for grubs, 1/2 red worm, waxwork and spike.

Not have I designed a float, I also have some wicked poles on the way and can't with for this Spring! Formula 1 Cane!!

There are only 52 members of this section of the site - but this section catches a ton of fish - a lot - trust me. This is the good stuff.

Comment by Joe Angelucci on March 17, 2014 at 8:13pm

The Gapen floats  are 1 gram. Are you slotting with #10 

Comment by Johnny wilkins on March 17, 2014 at 7:44pm

Sorry - these are what the pencil floats look like. 

Comment by Johnny wilkins on March 17, 2014 at 7:42pm

Use these - (not found in big boxy stores!) : )

Think smaller float / smaller stores.

Pencil Float

• Here are the advantages of this model:
• Fishes casting or fixed as a pole float and a slip-float or slider.
• Thin design reacts and shows bite easier.
• Works for both small jig as well as fished with shot with grub or red worm. 
• Warranty Against Breakage! Send back broken floats for replacement - WOW.
• Markings Help Anglers Shot and Balance
• Thin tip works in cold water and tough bite situations shows lift sand takes
• Add shot to thin antenna to fish waxes, crickets and spikes for max sensitivity

I already see the " I can't see that small bobber posts" and I appreciate you as well who like a larger bob on your ber...  For my friends with eyesight like mine, try these 6" floats fish smaller than they appear.  If you want to make it sensitive, add shot all the way to the top orange nub and you can cast a mini bobber a long way. 

These are little-known floats - not in many stores that is great for both a short waggler (short but deadly), a slip float and also a pole float all-in-one:

Longer distance cast - easy spot bobbers

You can throw this a long way and fish it in a wind- these are nice and their stems are all fiberglass so they are really strong.

Above are some alternatives to the shy bite and the larger floats below which are more sensitive and versitile. With that mass of wood floating on the water, these are too bulky and "slow to respond" to the lightning fast gill bite, faster than some can react to.  

I will give you a scenarios.

I personally shotted down and balanced a new angler to our club's shy bite. In the March cold water of our event, his float wouldn't show the movement below. The fish could easily take his grub and not move the float enough for him to react. 4 hours fishing - shy bite caught 4 gills. Right next door, 20' away I managed 100+ on a lighter float. Mass matters. Buoyancy = lack of signal to the angler. 

When I have used 1.5 gram floats on tough days- they will sit in the water in cold weather. The last two times out trout fishing, people with 1.5, 3gram and even larger floats were averaging .5 trout. I learned the mass lesson - the trout taught me. I changed from a 1.5 gram float to a 1 gram float and limited out with 20+ fish.

Two times, I switched my neighbor's float and got them each two trout within 10 minutes where they sat the entire time with zero fish.

Fish are there- but mass up top= lack of bait movement below. The hook doesn't physically move into the fish's mouth. Size does matter.

If I had to go with a gram size float (sometimes it is necessary with larger baits or in winds), I would go with a thin stem float. In windy conditions, you will have no choice but move up in float size to punch the cast into the wind.

Comment by Joe Angelucci on March 17, 2014 at 6:55pm

Bentley makes one of the most sensitive panfish floats on the market and are priced at about $2.00 each. These are perfect for pole fishing.

Comment by Leo Nguyen on March 17, 2014 at 2:26pm

You're more than welcome. Quite a few masters using floats around here. They will chime in later.

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