Bluegill Fly Rodders

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Comment by Chris Barclay on May 22, 2012 at 8:14am

What Leo said, plus what I use most of the time with great success is something called a Brim Killer.  They are slow sinkers and have very enticing rubber legs.  Before I started tying them myself I bought them from Jim Green on ebay.  Just look up 'Brim Killers' and you'll find them.  He's a great tyer and guy.  I've tried many other flies but keep coming back to these. 

Comment by Leo Nguyen on May 22, 2012 at 8:10am

Craig, what you have is perfect for all day surface bit. Foam spiders will trigger it even more. However, slow sink, and I mean, very very slow sink, presenting with a bit of legs to disturb the water for natural presentation as you jerks the bait, will instantly give you a massive strike reflex. During day time, slow sink present as a victim offering, as the overcasting shadow of the victim create a struggle. For trout, I use a 1/2" black spider, with the legs span of 2" going in each direction, total of 6 legs.  Smaller foam/plastic presentation, like crickets, I use 4 legs, 1" in each direction, with slow jerks every 20 seconds. I use fly split shots to create a 2cm sink rate every minute. This is what you call a hot strike zone. Not sure what other masters do for their ultra slow sink rate presentation.

 

Night bites, get some glowing bug flies that create high visible glimmers in the water. I use heavy glitters and flashes for moon lit nights, while using any reflective materials for dark nights, and shine my LED lights horizontal to water surface. A killer combo.

Comment by Craig DuShane on May 22, 2012 at 7:49am

Just started using spiders, poppers, and some wet flies behind a bobber with spinning gear this weekend. Holy cow was this awesome. A ton more fun than live bait and a lot easier to fish over the tops of weeds.

I really like foam spiders for the morning bite, but what do you use for when the sun starts getting high in the sky/midday bite? The fish seemed to stop hitting surface bugs then. I have not tried the night bite yet.

Comment by Leo Nguyen on May 22, 2012 at 7:35am

 

Bill, been using that for ages with my spinning gears during cold seasons for trouts, and during summer to fall for surface strikers, ranging from bass, carp, to panfish. Either clear slip bobber, Thill Landy/BPS 1/4" pencil bobber, or Bullet bobbers, they work great with casting flies with a 12" flouro leader during aggressive strike period. During shy/calm period, 24" leader is the key.

 

By the way, I'm not sure how many fly rodding masters here use this fishing method, but I tend to switch out my fly reel for my micro spinning reel for my fly rods. It feels weird at first, but the fun factor is off the chart when you feel every little nibble through your fingers as you easily hold onto the braid line..I got my senses tingling with excitement when I first started it. It still got me all hyped up now.

Comment by Bill Purmort on May 22, 2012 at 7:16am

A great alternative is to look for clear plastic casting bobbers...they are used with spinning gear and are designed to provide the weight necessary to carry a fly out on pretty long casts that would be otherwise impossible with spinning gear. Great for kids and when the fish are hitting dry flies.

Comment by Leo Nguyen on May 21, 2012 at 1:39pm

Tooty, the world's standards of a "master" status is way too high for all of us to attain. However, BBG flyrodders here are truly masters of the arts of fly rod casting. We may not be able to cast a perfect cast, landing the fly and line in a 2-in circle like some true masters would be able to do, but, what counts is landing those beautiful fish with the fly gears. You not only know about your gears, owning the great gears, and build them either from blanks or restore them to near factory conditions, but use the gears to master the arts. If that's not the master status, I don't know what is. You give me a rod to repair and restore, I might be turning it into sushi bits.

 

Chris, I hear you. My kids are driving me insane right now at the age of 3, 5, and 12. The phases will pass, but pray to God that it would be over soon. Every two weeks, I need to hit the water with them or away from them to I can reset my mind set. Otherwise, they would call me the "drill sergeant" after so much patience has been wasted away.

Comment by chris on May 21, 2012 at 1:04pm

LOL Leo my first born turned 18 last month.

I think right now I would trade him for a good fly rod.

he has me at my wits end lately.

Now that Im armed with some info and several hours of you tube. I think Im ready to buy a rod and reel. Now to find a good beginners set up.

thanks again for your help.

Comment by DAVID L EITUTIS on May 21, 2012 at 12:10pm

HEY LEO,
 YOU keep confusing me that term Masters!!!!! We are all novices .

No Leo you won't have to sell your first born to get an old fly rod!!!

 

Comment by Leo Nguyen on May 19, 2012 at 12:43pm

Chris and Oleta, fly fishing is awesome. Where the regular spinning reel setup cannot get to, the fly rod could. During winter season, I use my spinning reel gears. During late spring to late fall, I balance between spinning and fly gear. My fly gears are getting overly abused by me and my kids, so, I'm talking to a few flyrodding masters here to obtain their indestructible ancient rods that I don't have to sell my first born and half of my soul.

Comment by Oleta Webb on May 19, 2012 at 12:20pm

Leo, thank you for great info. I have been kinda fly fished on the rivers for bream. Not really knowing the right knots and the "right" way to cast. This week I went to Panama City, Fl with Project Healing Waters. I have seen with my own eyes...a fly rod dance, the line go so far back then shot forward. I am now really going to get into Fly Fishing...never knew the line can do so much. I wish I took pictures but I was amazed with how the line acted in open water that I forgot I even had a camera. I am now hooked on fly fishing not fly slapping the water. lol 

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