A third of today's Flier Catch......36 Total....

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Comment by Jeffrey D. Abney on October 23, 2018 at 4:05pm

November fliers!

Comment by DAVID L EITUTIS on November 18, 2012 at 9:51am

AFTER READING ALL THE COMMENTS HERE on colors , sizes, etc. One thing that was mentioned was scent.
  Well I personally think that COULD have some thing to do with the bite if all other things are equal. Some things don't add up though: I don't use bait much, once every ten years of so and then it's waxies. So how about the rest of the time when there is no scent , other than natural scents. Scent from our hands. what ever is in the water that adds scent to a lure, gasoline and oil that may be in the water.
  ON to size next and I think this has alot , but not everything to do with success. If a bluegill or crappie can get their mouths around a #8-10 hook size it's probably not as important than as we may think. Gills , I'm told and read, do eat microscopic organisms. HOw do they see em at depths 20' or more? Don't know if they can but they apparently find em through scent or something. 
  COLOR (MY FAVORITE TOPIC ON LURES). DON'T KNOW WERE TO START HERE !!! For YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYears one of the best combo's has been red&yellow , WHY? I think no matter what the color is the fish eat it due to it's attraction . WHo knows what the Bluegills see red as . In our eyes red is associated with blood. I personally think when they hit this combo they instinctively associate red with blood. Don't know how the yellow figures in except that the yellow I use in Marabou is about the same color as the yellow in two things. A bluegills belly that is bright yellow or SPAWN about to be dropped.

   Don't know why PURPLE IS SO DARN GOOD , but for me it has worked everywere I've used it . Chartruese ? What in the water is chartruese?  GO figure.
    Guess it comes down to the final aspect luck!!!! If you are in the right place at the right time and have something on the Gills want to bite , you may catch a fish...................

Comment by dick tabbert on November 18, 2012 at 7:58am

Funny you should bring that up Jim about colors and styles. Fish eat and they eat certain foods all the time that never changes. They eat smaller fish they eat shrimp and love craws. What we have to remember is size and color in the particular water we are fishing. We have to match the hatch sort  to speak and have to be able to duplicate it. I think if you can put these element together now I'm speaking artificial because I don't think we will ever substitute real live bait and Jeffrey is a perfect example of that although he does mix artificial with live bait and it works for him there is a lesson there to be had. If he took off the live bait I would venture to say he wouldn't catch half of his fish he catches even less than that, only he can answer that but there is a reason he uses live bait also. But getting back to artificial If we get the size, color and motion the way it really looks (live state) when it moves through the water column we may improve our catch ratio tremendously and a biggie here something most of us don't consider is smell. There are times smell may not be as important and that's call a reaction bite. You see that lots of times when they are guarding there nest and there main goal is to get rid of that predator there trying to do harm to the eggs or small fry. This is quit an interesting topic for sure and really interests me and there are answers to be had to find that lure that will work continuously and I really don't think one lure is the answer because fish eat different things different time of the year. Again thanks for letting me babble.

Comment by Tony Livingston on November 18, 2012 at 7:20am

Very true Jim, especially on pressured fish. You may need to throw those fish something different to get their attention, while un-pressured fish might not be quite so picky. I remember traveling to different lakes and being told that my lures and methods wouldn't catch fish there, because the fish didn't know what they were.....perhaps there's a grain of truth in that, as the locals were probably matching a local forage source with their baits, and taking fish on it.

However, that brings me back to angling pressure....I think that the more pressure the fish receive, the more important it becomes to change things up, while less pressure means that one doesn't need to tie in a new jig/bait nearly as often.

Comment by Jim Gronaw on November 18, 2012 at 7:09am

I think that even panfish can become accustomed to certain colors and styles over time and what was hot 2 years ago might not get it done this season. And like Tony says different areas of the country have fan favorites and traditional patterns and colors that have been productive over years, if not decades. Keeping an open mind on tactics and techniques will always help us catch fish under a variety of situations.

Comment by Jeffrey D. Abney on November 18, 2012 at 7:08am

No joke intended David....I have several big wash tubs that I purge Crawfish and Blue crabs in so I flipped one over and put a few chilled Fliers up for a quick photo......

Comment by Tony Livingston on November 18, 2012 at 6:57am

I absolutely think location plays a key role here. At any given moment across the country, there is a multitude of different BOW, all varying from one another to some degree. Perhaps those differences are small when compared from waters within the same locale, or even region. But, as the distances between them increase, so do the differences...... Water temp is certainly a dramatic example, AND a big one in my book.

Couple that with the seasonal insect hatches, emerging larvae, or even the presence of a nearly year-round supply of forage..(grass shrimp anyone?), and you get BG that vary in what they want to see, and more importantly, eat, from one area to another.

And, let's not forget the impact that we, as anglers, can have on our favorite fish. I have always maintained that lightly-pressured fish are easier to catch. That's not to say that there aren't days or conditions that they don't want to cooperate, merely that the less accustomed to seeing fishermen, (and their baits), that the fish are, the more likely they can be enticed to take your offering, and the less picky those same fish might be in deciding whether or not they like the color you have tied on at any given moment. We're probably all familiar with that old adage that says, basically, that a big fish got that way by being smart..... And while I know there's a heck of a lot more to growing large BG than increasing their brainpower, I don't discount the possibility of a large, old fish being far more wary than his younger counterparts, and I do believe that angling pressure can contribute to a "conditioned response" in BG.... they learn to be cautious.

 

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on November 17, 2012 at 10:58pm

I took another look at this pic - dead fish on a trashcan bottom. There is some kinda joke there, I think...

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on November 17, 2012 at 10:55pm

My guess is that color has something to do with locality, too. Certain colors work better in certain places, in other words.

You fish (and catch) more than I do, from what I know. What do you think?

Comment by Jim Gronaw on November 17, 2012 at 9:37pm

Purple and lavender are worth an honorable mention here. I know that LedHed and Fabi are tying and using them and catching boss coppers at Perris. Fabi, by the way, ties some of the best looking jigs I have ever seen. And Bruce has told me that the purple/lavender connection had a history of trophy gills in his area.

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