My most productive warmwater "fly"

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Comment by Andy is OptiMystic on February 27, 2015 at 9:57am

My biggest issue with Gulp is that it hardens if allowed to dry and for this I like to be able to have it hooked and ready in the fly box so I don't have to take so much stuff.

I do also use unweighted grubs.

Comment by jim cosgrove on February 27, 2015 at 9:29am

i have seen guys super glue plastics to hooks and throw them on a fly rod.all kinds of micro plastics ouy there and making a mold your self wouldnt be hard.i am sure the gulp crickets etc could be cast on a flyrod if you tied a barb made of wire near the eye.most of or all of the stuff we fish with was made by people like us.yeah the process for making and painting has gone high tech but the original ideas were some guy with down time thinking about fishing.look what rapala has become.

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on February 27, 2015 at 9:26am

Dang, you guys are amazing.
The stuff you know..,,

Comment by jim cosgrove on February 27, 2015 at 9:19am

andy the trout magnet is a jig,these molded on the hook things were meant to be used on a flyrod.many companies made and some still do make these.they seem odd today but are the predecessors to modern plastics.the stuff we use now didn,t exist.these were made of rubber and plastic combinations.many of these are quite collectible.whatever they were made from they do seem to dry rot like the old jig skirts and legs on older foam spiders,so i am thinking rubber of some kind.i fish senkos weightless for bass and the gills attack them.i see this bait as a mini version of a senko.

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on February 27, 2015 at 9:13am

I remember the you - I had one!
eBay is a wealth of supply; you're probably right.

I've put small twist tails on a bare hook and fished them tenkara-style to catch gills.
I suspect that I could use them alone on the fly rod and quit tying flies altogether. They work that good, in the smaller varieties.

Comment by Andy is OptiMystic on February 27, 2015 at 9:12am

The liquid was PlastiGoop. It has been reformulated because the 60s formula was actually somewhat toxic and required more heat to cook than is now deemed safe for kids. I thought about using it for baits but I feared the small would put them off.

Comment by jim cosgrove on February 27, 2015 at 8:59am

that is similar to things made by burke's.not plastisol like our modern soft plastics are made of a different material.remember creepy crawlers?with the bottles of liquid you put in a mold and cooked on a hot plate type thing.my dad used to put hooks in them for us.i really liked the tarantula .not really a good bait but with a worm dangling from it it caught fish.look on ebay i,ll bet you can find similar items.that looks like a bluegill senko.

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on February 27, 2015 at 8:03am

I see, well that makes sense.

Comment by Andy is OptiMystic on February 27, 2015 at 7:57am

I wouldn't want this too soft. The reason I often prefer this to a small nymph is it is a little more discerning about the tiny fish. They still hit it but miss the hook. So the back half would get ripped off pretty quickly if it was too soft. BTW, I should qualify my statement about this being the most productive to include the caveat about size. If it was a counter a counter clicking contest with no regard to size, I might go with this little black nymph. Shown here are 2 of them to illustrate what fish do to them:

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on February 27, 2015 at 7:22am

With what little I know about the process, you can vary the hardness to your wishes.

Gooey to hard, the choice is yours. Most fishermen want a bait that will appeal to fish AND be tougher than shoe leather, so manufacturers have to balance the two.

Me, I like a soft, pliable attractor. I'm pretty convinced they have a more lifelike look, and certainly offer a more "chewy" texture for the fish.

So I have set a low 'three fish integrity measure.'
If a bait lasts for three fish, I won't mind replacing it.
I'm probably in the minority.

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