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Comment by LedHed on October 16, 2014 at 12:10pm

Interesting info Tony. I downsize in the marina - shallower water and it seems the fish in there like a slower presentation. And when the water temps drop - not thee yet.

Fishing the lake usually means moving or fishing deep water right now. Crazy pattern right due to the water level drop....

Comment by Tony Livingston on October 16, 2014 at 6:17am

Led, your photos are always a great source of information. Like you, I have been seeing something in a few of those fish that has me puzzled. I wondered about a RES connection, but studies indicate that when a RES crosses with a BG the offspring is 97% male....irregardless of which parent was male. So, female hybrids of gills and ears are pretty uncommon.

I think Bruce may have a photo here that shows a female hybrid....if I get some time I will look.

Then again, does it make a difference if the BG parent in question is northern, or coppernose? I kind of doubt it, but I have no studies that indicate one way or the other. I think the fish in this photo is a female coppernose.

Do you notice a benefit to downsizing your offerings as the season progresses? I know I do, but wasn't sure if the cooler water temps were a factor in your location, like they are in mine?

Comment by LedHed on October 16, 2014 at 5:04am

They had them in here Ken - think they are gone now. Pretty sure this might be a RE dominant BG female. I'm not a biologist - just guessing....

This is a down sized version dick - 1/80th with a #12 sickle hook.

Comment by Jim Gronaw on October 15, 2014 at 7:34pm

Female copper...I think.

Comment by dick tabbert on October 15, 2014 at 7:06pm

Gorgeous fish LedHed on the Auto no doubt.

Comment by Slip Sinker on October 15, 2014 at 6:51pm

so northern strain in Lake Perris?