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Comment by Johnny wilkins on April 17, 2011 at 2:31pm

We have a national championships in Elkhart, IN where these fish are caught. This year the contest is on a river though so shiners (golden shiners, roach) won't play a key role in the top weights. Near Chicago we have regional competitions and this fish is a fish that can offer you some real good weight to go along with the bluegills.

 

Yes- I would like to form a national competition circuit for catch-and-release bluegill and shiner / multi-species fishing.

I love this site!

Comment by Howard Webster on April 16, 2011 at 6:35pm

Bofin and bass Love them

Comment by Zach Pierce on April 15, 2011 at 10:46am

Greg,

 

You fish some in Oklahoma right?  Do you know where I could catch some of these guys?

Comment by Live Bait Ninja on April 14, 2011 at 10:18pm

they also indicate a fair level of water quality. They require a bit cleaner water than other members of the carp family.

Comment by Greg McWilliams on April 14, 2011 at 7:22pm

It is amazing the amount of knowledge that exist here on this site!!!!!!

Sounds like we need a competition in the U.S.A. like the have across the pond. Looks like Eric the Mountian man has this contest won!!

Jen got it right an over grown minnow.

Thanks for the input on this one!!!!!

John it is now tagged now that I know what it is!!!!!

 

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on April 14, 2011 at 3:42pm

Shiners - they call em 'roach' I believe, in the UK. A similar fish is the 'rudd,' which has been imported here in limited numbers. Lets see what I can pull from the 'ol memory about such fish.

 

Shiners, roach, rudd..., whatever you call them, they are members of a divers family of fishes called 'Cyrinidae'. Some other well known fish found among this group are the common goldfish and the carp. In the UK, all of these are known as "coarse fish. "

This name, 'coarse fish', is used to distinguish them from the more "noble" European fishes - trout, salmon and char.

 

The English (and other Europeans) make a big deal out of catching the many different 'coarse fish', with the roach/shiner group referred to by their own name, 'silver fish.'

They have contests over there to catch these 'coarse' fish, called matches, where the idea is to catch the greatest total weight in a given time to win. Carp is King, in fact, for these guys because they grow to such massive proportions. However, a match can be won or lost, for the difference in weight of one roach (shiner)!

When it's over, they turn them all loose for another day.

 

And I do believe they are related to minnows

Comment by Jen Nayfly on April 14, 2011 at 7:25am

Looks like a minnow on steroids!

Comment by John Sheehan on April 14, 2011 at 6:56am

Fatty Golden Shiner Greg ,yours too MM.Tag your GS so they show up with mine and Johnny Wilkins' in a search :  http://bigbluegill.com/photo/photo/search?q=Golden+Shiner

Comment by Eric White on April 13, 2011 at 11:30pm

yep yep

Comment by Walt Foreman on April 13, 2011 at 6:43pm

Golden shiner.