OLD GEEZER GROUP!!!

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Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on March 21, 2013 at 7:08pm

LOL, Steve. I probably should never have read H.L. Mencken.

Comment by Steve Totten on March 21, 2013 at 7:05pm

This is where I start my rant about how the government is behind all this.  RANT!!

Sorry, I couldn't resist

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on March 21, 2013 at 6:19pm

In not a big believer in "accidental history." This says we "get" where we are through mistakes and coincidence; things change randomly, even though we might have done this or that differently.
Aaaand... I don't buy that. The mores and collective conscience of several dozen generations don't just morph in a few decades without a push.
If this were just old geezers complaining about the young, I could chuckle. Rather, I'm hearing people who are noticing a greater malaise than they can explain, even with all their years and wisdom together.
My suspicion is we are part of bigger things than we know....

Comment by DAVID L EITUTIS on March 21, 2013 at 5:10pm

LEO YOU ARE WISE BEYOND YOUR YEARS BUDDY !!!!!!! Fortunately for me my two sons allow their kids to display nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno disrespect to anyone .

 ZERO TOLERANCE AS THEY SAY. WOULDN'T WANT to be parents 20-25 years from now .......

Comment by Leo Nguyen on March 21, 2013 at 5:00pm

Dead on Tooty. But where do the next generations learn to display and value the respect for others? Primarily, the parents, then grandparents, and ultimately, those they encountered. Nowadays, there are more encounters of the crap-kinds than the respectable kinds. The new generations are more about the Me-My-Mine-So What(?) mentality. It kills me to stand there, restraining myself, as the parents just stare at the kids, and say, "Now now..that's not nice.."

My kids done something wrong, I make sure to let them know, apologize, or they will publicly get embarrassed, and still have to apologize. I will then follow up with, "Now, I'm proud of you for doing what's right. If you hate me, hate me, but know I love you enough to give you what you need, and not what you want."

When we're out and about now, they did something wrong, automatically apologize, look at me for confirmations, I smile, and they're happy to get the silent praises. I pray that they will grow up and pass on what they've learned to others, which, my 6 years old boy have started doing in school.

Comment by DAVID L EITUTIS on March 21, 2013 at 4:50pm

Well I might just wade in here on this discussion: Leo you and the other fellas here are all right to some degree or another. Bob is right as are all of you . I've seen it change in my own lifetime regrettably that Respect is a taught thing. All mentioned comments here all come down to the single thing of Respect. Respect for other peoples property, fishing spots, river haunts, and most importantly respect at home.
  WE OURSELVES are partially responsible because we let School boards get away with the idea that they can rule in all situations and make any rules apply they want . Usually done with just a stroke of a pen. I'm not taking sides here for liberals or conservatives values. I'm taking the side of common sense.......
   Dick many times I have seen a struggling angler watching myself and Old Al sitting on a bed hammering em so to speak. Pretty soon ya hear it , " HEY BUDDY WHAT YA USING?" NEVER FAILS so over they come and I tell em just take this spot and we'll move on to the next one, THERE IS ALWAYS A NEXT SPOT when the spawn is on. Rather than get nasty or say insulting things now I just let em have the spot cause I know they couldn't find the next spot unless they were led to it. I''ll just move on .
  Steve you are right also and after WW 2 folks became used to two incomes and the things it brought , good and bad...... 
   You guys are all right but I might say the parents are the Ultimate teachers here and  say that most of us could do a better job at raising respectful kids . That in the long run corrects lots of ills brought on be todays ever permissive society in all aspects of life..........

Comment by Leo Nguyen on March 21, 2013 at 4:20pm

Well, let me be the front runner on the current generations of misfits, since I'm 37, with kids ranging from 3 to 13. It's not going out on the limbs, but it's based on hard recorded facts that parents are becoming too relaxed, too timid, or too guilt-ridden that they're not taking a strong approach to disciplines.

Most dads don't care to do anything beside their own things, leaving moms to deal with both roles. Moms are way too short on power, since dads have great disciplinary leverages. Parents don't rule the home with the proper iron fists with ill-behaviors and ill-manners, and depending on the politically-correct half baked ideas from psycho-babblers that don't even have kids of their own. Then you have a group of single/divorced parents that are too guilty for not having enough time with their kids, so, they spoil them with everything, causing a breakdown of morals and manners, because the kids get away with murder.

Comment by Rick King on March 21, 2013 at 4:12pm

I agree David........but what are the chances of that ever happening. I've had it happen ice fishing. However on the ice you can look then in the eye and have a nice with them about the Etiquette of fishing, either they understand or they move on. Usally works for me and most understand and dont want to be rude they just want to learn. And Im always glad to help them understand.

Comment by Steve Totten on March 21, 2013 at 3:53pm

Bob,  I am of the opinion that our generation was the start of the lack of manners, morals, respect, and a lot of other attributes kids should have but nobody taught them.  At the end of WWII our mothers didn't go back to the kitchen to raise families and take care of their homes.  The start of the problem we have now, two income families where both parents work outside the home.

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on March 21, 2013 at 3:44pm

Lemme go out on a limb here...
A psychiatrist named Robert Bly wrote a book in the 90's called, "Iron John, A Book About Men."
It describes the whys and how's behind the social degradation we are commenting on here, among other ills often noted.
Widely panned by "establishment" academics and policy makers (mostly because it pointed the finger at them), I consider it one of the most telling exposes of what is "wrong" with society today.
I suggest it as required reading.

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