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after trolling cranks @10-12' over 25' didn't produce .. gettin' Pik on Flash King off a shallow boulder and two small gills on split shotted worms5-10' ...verticle jigging while drifting 1/6th oz. Silver Lil Cleo@20-25' produces this 17" healthy bass with a great fat tail.This fish put us in the area of 4 nice gills in the 9" range

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Comment by Slip Sinker on November 22, 2014 at 4:42pm

i forgot to mention the blue dots on my map are the way points i punched in on my sonar. these are locations that i encountered quality and quantity of quality fish on the lake just up to two weeks before ice on... this is where ill be punching my first series of holes when ice is safe.

good fishing 

ken

Comment by Slip Sinker on November 22, 2014 at 3:39pm

Tony thats basically why i never did really great with the gills ice fishing, because i fished the basin first... i actually went with the crowd. first ice everyone went for the deepest part of the lake. i did great with open water white bass , crappie and perch but this year gill is the target. i fished that lake almost till ice on and they were shallow in the weeds with slip bobbers and maggots. i checked today two inches of ice and ill bet thats exactly where they are now.

Comment by John Sheehan on November 22, 2014 at 3:35pm

great advice Tony , food ,oxygen in healthy weeds

Comment by Tony Livingston on November 22, 2014 at 2:46pm

Always, always, fish the weeds at first ice. Normally the weeds are still green, and if it's a type of vegetation that has some height to it, so much the better. Now after the ice and snow has been on awhile, the weeds often die back. If they're brown and down, they may still hold fish, but often the shallower areas that feature weeds may become devoid of oxygen as the weeds die back, and the fish will transition to deeper areas.

If it's a milder winter and the weeds stay green, the fish may never leave the shallower areas, and anglers who insist on fishing the basin may miss out.

Weeds are the key...if the water clarity is good, and the weeds survive, that's the place to start fishing.

Comment by John Sheehan on November 22, 2014 at 2:31pm

Finding pockets in the weeds results in drilling a lot of holes so you've earned them if you find them!

Comment by John Sheehan on November 22, 2014 at 2:29pm

I 've always done best starting 1st ice shallow, say 6-12 '  and moving deeper to say 20' as the season gets later .Good fish are sometimes caught shallower and deeper than what I tend to usually do though .

Comment by John Sheehan on November 22, 2014 at 2:25pm

great stuff Ken !!Thanks!

Comment by Slip Sinker on November 22, 2014 at 2:10pm

these were radio tagged gillsand the part of the study pertaining to ice fishing gills were locating them in dense vegetation. the ice fisherman were basically fishing the wrong areas. so have i apparently through the years. i have never really slammed the gills basically i fished the deep basin and open water. ive done well on crappie and perch but never the gill

Comment by John Sheehan on November 22, 2014 at 12:02pm

Thanks Ken that tracking study is gonna take some time to study! 95 pages!

THAT APP IS FABULOUS ,wait till I show it to my brother Greg!! thanks very much Ken ,you're great!

Comment by Slip Sinker on November 22, 2014 at 11:01am

this is a great app john youll love it

http://webapp.navionics.com/?lang=en

Check out this tracking study done on bluegill movements …

http://pubstorage.sdstate.edu/wfs/thesis/Weimer-Eric-J-MS-2004.pdf

it shows ice fishing anglers hugely missing bluegill location … shallow and in the weeds. So I’m going to start my ice fishing shallow and work my way to the basin as winter progresses. I’m thinking target the existing weed beds as a starting point. I know you winter fish so maybe we could compare notes as the season progresses

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