Sept. 28, 2013 Dubbing Wax Hardcore fly tyers use a soft, tacky wax to adhere "fuzz" to tying thread, which essentially makes it into a yarn. The fuzz can be anything from chopped up carpet yarn, to synthetic materials made for the purpose... Once wound onto a hook, this fuzzy thread then represents a convincing body on their creations. Both the 'fuzz' and the practice is called, "dubbing," and it is utterly dependent on the proper adhesive. I've tried a few things on hand, like nail polish and silicone glue and like the overall effect, even if these things are not really ideal for the use. From this testing, I knew I was going to need the right wax, sooner or later. Its about 5$-7$ for a small tube, and I must order it in, as there its no local outlet. I was about to pull the trigger and order, when I searched the internet for alternatives. And here in the photo, you see what I learned. Good old toilet sealing wax is the same thing! Anybody who has replaced a toilet knows how sticky and gooey this wax is. It comes in a donut shape, which fits between the toilet base and the flange upon which the toilet rests. All I had to do was melt some of the ring over a candle flame, and I did it in a votive candle base....you know, those little metal cups the votives come in. The resulting "tin" is on the right, post-melt. You can also cut down an old soft drink can to melt large quantities in a pot of boiling water, double boiler style. Pour the wax into film canisters, small jars, etc. This toilet ring had some poly fiber reinforcement in it, but it can be picked out once the wax is melted. Even, if a bit remains, it won't hurt. Cost of the wax ring at Wal Mart was $2.50, give or take, and it will probably last a lifetime. Wax on, wax off, friends.
Leo Nguyen
LOL!! Oh man, adaptation to its finest! As Tooty has pointed out, wax is not really needed. I agreed. Just our saliva is more that sufficient. But, for those who don't want their mouths full of dubbin and fur, wax is a great substitute. After my flying sessions, my wife does not want to kiss me because my mouth looks like a glorified decorative ornament.
Sep 28, 2013
David, aka, "McScruff"
I find that even the ring wax is not quite tacky enough. My next test will include some petroleum jelly in the mix.
And maybe a bit of spit.
Leo, your wife is a real trooper.
Sep 28, 2013
Leo Nguyen
Spit may not be glue, but the method of using saliva is to bind the dubbin together enough to create a hold for the thread to finalize the tying. Jelly and wax are way too sticky. It makes more messes than it's worth. Once the dubbin get a chance to dry up, the wax and jelly just make the presentation not as live like.
Sep 28, 2013
David, aka, "McScruff"
But, I get the idea and you're encouraging me.
I was also thinking about that blue glue stick stuff.
You know me, though.... I had to try the toilet wax!
Sep 28, 2013
David, aka, "McScruff"
Sep 28, 2013
Leo Nguyen
David, yes..did recognized it ;) I was about to recommend you to use bacon's grease, but then, I imagine it may just adds fuel to interesting discussion of something that may get out of control..LOL
Sep 28, 2013
David, aka, "McScruff"
Sep 28, 2013
jim cosgrove
you can order lip balm tubes online .use a double boiler method and a small funnel and ur in business.the tube makes the wax much easier to apply.also graet for tying extended bodies on large needles as they slide right off and don't get glued to the needle.i also make scent the same way,i add fish oil and shrimp pellets that i grind in a coffee grinder into the wax.the oil makes it a little pastier.i rud it on jigs plastics etc.the tubes are cheap in bulk and very handy
Sep 28, 2013