20141120-SCREW THE NAIL KNOT aka nailless nail knot

[Slip Sinker]

So im out on the lake with no internet service fly fishing for the first time last year and had to retie a leader… I used the nail knot with the help of the straw and the internet at home and I forgot how to tie the darn knot. I tried for about a half an hour and came up with something that was close but get this… EASIER TO TIE! AND NO NAILS OR STRAWS!!. It seems to have the relative same knot strength, but I can tie this knot in the dark. Try it out. I couldn’t find any reference on line close so I called it what I exclaimed at the dock. SCREW THE NAIL KNOT!

i have just found a reference to this knot (NAILLESS NAIL KNOT) i like my name better lol

THE THINNER LINE TO THE LEFT IS THE LEADER...

[carl hendrix]

Ken;; in my trade we use to call that one a surgeons knot.  winter time is also a good time to learn knots.  check out knot wars!!

[Slip Sinker]

i disagree look closer... the leader knot is the only tag involved in the knot ... the fly line is under compression.. and is not used in the knot construction at all... just like the nail knot the fly line is not used at all in the tie. you would never use a surgeons knot to tie leader to fly line. the fly line is to thick.

[Slip Sinker]

however im still looking

[Slip Sinker]

here is a closer look at the final knot with braid... looks like a nail knot when done

[Slip Sinker]

it is tied very similar to one of the many ways to tie a slip bobber knot...

[David, aka, "McScruff"]

Yes, it's very much like it

[jim cosgrove]

a good knot carl,use it to attach tippet.i always have a loop end on my flyline as i had nail knots come loose.i think a nail knot with the straw is the one i use to make bobber stops

[Slip Sinker]

Found it.....

[David, aka, "McScruff"]

Wheres the nail?

I've got a little tool made just for this, although I'm not sure where I put it.
Once I learned about no knot eyelets and knotless leader connections, I never looked back.
I've yet to use the tool.

[jim cosgrove]

i used  use that method but it can come off the end of the fly line.especially with braid as it slips and will cut into the fly line.they make add on loops that are secured with shrink wrap,you can double over the end of the fly line wrap it with tying thread and then shrink wrap it.

[jim cosgrove]

if you use this knot with both ends you can make leaders

[Slip Sinker]

Twin leaders?