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after posted the discussion over newer baits for a fly rod i looked at comments and i went and bought a couple of rubber spiders and a san jaun worm now then yesterday afternoon i went fishing and i caught quite a few bream on the san jaun worm but, the ruber spider fish by its self was the real killer ive never caught so many fish on my fly rod in one day thank you to all of you that helped me out

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well these werent foam they were cotton bodied i think cotton
Hey Jeffery, Glad to hear that the flyrod worked out well for you. I think that in my first post, I mentioned that I like to use a black ant pattern. I buy them at one of the local "Marts" here in Columbus, (can't see well enough to tie my own). They fall real slow and work well in shallow water beds. Once the heat hits I switch to more conventional live bait or jigs for deeper fishing. If I'm at my friend's lake where I can use his jon boat, then I'll take the fly rod and tie a floating cricket on in case there is any surface action the first thing in the morning. I get my terrestrial flies from Bass Pro Shops or Cabelas. Well, keep working those bugs as long as you can and good luck. Nick.
nick i went out and bought me a couple of the ants you were talking about but i couldnt find any cricket patterns this time ill have to look else where
Try these guys:
http://www.flydealflies.com/catalog1.html
I get a lot of the stuff I can't tie from them. Good quality.
I have also had excellent bluegill fishing on rubber-legged foam spiders. It seems like they cannot resist the fly. In the past, I have also done well on large gold-ribbed hare's ear nymphs about # 10 or larger, and on small bucktails like Art Flick's black-nosed dace. The nymphs I retrieve steadily with a hand-twist retrieve, and the bucktails I retrieve in pulses. I think the bucktails tend to catch the larger bluegills. But my last outing was probably the best fly fishing I have had for both large bluegills and bass. I had a smallish conehead, rubber legged wooley bugger, around size 10. The fly was black with fairly heavy hackle and the legs were chartreuse or green. The cone-head was quite light. I let it sink some, then twitched it in. In about an hour and a half, I hooked about 18 large gills, of which I only lnaded half, and seven nice bass up to a foot and a half in length.
Jeffery, Check out the video on this website about the Skip Morris Foam Preditor. I made a bunch of these up in 4 sizes and took them to a small pond locally to field test. I have to tell you, as a surface bait, the blue gills pounded it! I went home and got my grand daughter and we went back to said pond where the little gal got her first lesson in surface fishing. She had a ball! They look alot like a spider and the video suggests weighting them down as you drift or retreave so they are a multi-used bug. Haven't tried them below the surface yet but can testify they are an awesome surface bait. Bob

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