thanks for the reply bit we forgot a camera so we didn't get any pics but were going again in 2 weeks and I will try to get some pictures. it was my best day of fishing ever. it was at a large pond where my friends grandparents lived. most of the bass were small because they had a fish kill a couple of years ago but they have made an amazing recovery. the biggest fish were the bow fin i caught that was 4 1/2 pounds and my friends 3 pound bass.