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Comment by John Sheehan on December 13, 2012 at 1:47pm

David I'll get back to this as I have a studet coming but its not the roller itself but the line catching and cutting just to the side of the roller on the arm the roller sits in .AHH WE need a pic here I get one to you and describe better what i mean

 

 

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on December 13, 2012 at 1:35pm

I'm flattered, sir John. You give me far too much credit.

As for your dressage of the roller, good work my man! That is the spirit!!

Here is what I would suggest as further action:

1. Twist some small strips of fine emery paper into little spirals, so they fit down into the rollers channel. Use progressively finer grits to make a range of these polishing twists.

2. Tighten the roller screw all the way and use progressively finer emery strips to dress the roller in the filed area.

3. Once you have polished the roller this way, fully loosen the roller retention screw and squirt WD-40 or other light aerosol lube into the roller. This will remove any grit from the filing and polishing. Do this over an absorbent towel.

4. Blow out the roller to remove excess lube and tighten the roller retention screw all the way.

5. Finally, back off the screw just so the roller will rotate in it's socket.

The ever finer emery grits will take down and smooth any gross cuttings from the filing. Do this polishing until you have achieved the finish you desire.

My guess is that the roller itself is made of brass. I know you use good quality gear and plated brass is usually what you'll find on the rollers of such equipment. Yes, you've taken the plating off, but the bare metal of finely polished brass is better than what you might paint on... which is just as likely come right back from the friction imposed during use.

For what it's worth, spinning reel bail rollers should turn smoothly in their seat. As often as not, the screws holding them in place are too tight. Polishing the roller's surface and setting it to turn smoothly will make both it AND your line last a long time.

PS the same fine emery grits used on the roller are dandy for polishing guitar frets. Try it next time you change strings.

Comment by John Sheehan on December 13, 2012 at 12:17pm

Haahaa!! I need to tweak that post but it pretty much works as a starting point for Flutter spooning for me. Your posts are very cool David .You are one of the most resourceful characters on here .That has a lot to do with why I always look for one of your posts .They are becoming classic in my eyes .I did something the other day that made me think of you .I had some line cuts on the roller arm on my spining reel that were snagging and fraying my line .I took a hook file and smoothed it out so it doesnt catch and cut any more .Perhaps I'll have to replace it eventually if it starts happening again but it's pretty smooth now and I should get a little more work out of it .That's what I think you would do if I read you correctly . Do you think i should touch it up with something to keep it smooth .I don't know a lacquer or nail polish or something .Got a suggestion?

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on December 13, 2012 at 12:07pm

Hey, John - you know I'm here for you. All facetious jokes are delivered in the spirit of camaraderie. :-)

PS Im gonna add that little flutter spoon description to my files.

Comment by John Sheehan on December 13, 2012 at 11:48am

Thanks very much guys .It's a pleasure to recall and share my catches and tecniques and I've learned a lot from you both that's for certain! David ,that last sentence was very facetious of you! :)

Comment by John Sheehan on December 13, 2012 at 11:42am

Woah ,sounds great Jim .Best of luck and share your stories with this group please! I am dissapointed that ACME  Lures discontinued the Flash King Wobblers .They are good Flutterspoons in a range of sizes .I caught Perch,Crappie Gills ,Bass and Pickerel using the various sizes and weights .

Comment by David, aka, "McScruff" on December 13, 2012 at 11:42am

Im with Jim - great stuff, John! Thank you...

Have you ever thought about taking up song writing?

Comment by Jim Gronaw on December 13, 2012 at 10:49am

Wow, John...nice analogy! I think I might toss a couple spoons in some local lakes this winter. We have Loch Raven just north of Baltimore, Andre's stomping grounds, and Pinchot St Park near Dillsburg PA. both have 5 to 6 pound chains and boss crappies and bass. Thanks for the tips!

Comment by John Sheehan on December 13, 2012 at 8:25am

FISHING FLUTTER SPOONS

 

Hey David on that split shotted Flutter Spoon shallow water technique ,here's what I think is happening(actually has happened to me): A few weeks or maybe a month after ice out in North East New Jersey you find yourself fishing a flat ,midday in early or mid April. Your casting to three feet of water where cruising hungry Bass and Pickerel are still not in high enough gear to chase a steady retrieved spinner .You are reluctant to throw the Larger Flutter spoons in your box because you suspect smaller is a better profile for the early season likelihood of hooking a fish.  You select a Dardevle Chucklett or an Acme 1/6th oz. but find such a thin gauge spoon casts lousy  with six or  eight pound test, especially with unpredictable swirling side winds .You want a slow fall because you have faith that's what the fish feel is an easy meal under circumstances of lowered metabolism or activity level. For more distance you put on a split shot 6-8" above the lure and cast. The shot drops to the bottom while you're hoping you turned a fish's head toward the direction of your falling spoon 6-8 inches above the shot and slowly falling like a dying baitfish .Before the spoon falls to bottom where the shot is ,you see the line jump and move off .THAT WAS NO WIND GUST !,you say to yourself as you quickly reel up the line and set the hook .Sure enough it's your first fish of the day and you hope to establish a pattern with more fish at this spot and others like it on the lake. Several frustrations occur with the line, spoon and shot getting tangled with the help of uncooperative winds, but you find low rod angles and casting between gusts as much as you can be fortunate enough to time ,reduces those problem casts. If you can get the right size spoon to cast with the gear you have you'd abandon the shot all together ,but for now you're going with the added weight.    You find yourself at times , moving the shot around closer or farther from the lure to find what the fish want to see and feel from your presentation .You are thrilled to catch fish with a bait less lure and have found these hungry fish will do just that .You vow to try the technique over the weed edges in the late Fall, perhaps  with bigger and  heavier flutter spoons that may not need shot .You suspect you'll be able to call up Pickerel and Bass hiding in the weeds picking off dying baitfish your spoon is imitating.

Comment by John Sheehan on December 13, 2012 at 7:25am

Welcome Tooty!! It s a great page Chris from Connecticut started .There are some nice Pickerel Pics her.Sure would like to see Muskellunge and Pike pics too!

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