When They Quit Feeding on Top - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-28T23:10:02Zhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/when-they-quit-feeding-on-top?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A681328&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI would go with a "Briminator…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-15:2036984:Comment:6816542016-06-15T20:35:29.074ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>I would go with a "Briminator," "Cats Meow," "Rubber Legged Dragon," "Cap Spider," "Bully's Bluegill Spider..."</p>
<p>The list of nymph-like flies is endless. As long as it has a general shape and color reminiscent of aquatic nymphs, and some dangly, vibrating bits like hackle or legs, your in the zone. Small streamers are also an option, from 8-12 sizes.These get a bit fiddly for some people, however, so think dragonfly nymph and you're off to a good start.</p>
<p>WHY CHANGE?</p>
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<p>I would go with a "Briminator," "Cats Meow," "Rubber Legged Dragon," "Cap Spider," "Bully's Bluegill Spider..."</p>
<p>The list of nymph-like flies is endless. As long as it has a general shape and color reminiscent of aquatic nymphs, and some dangly, vibrating bits like hackle or legs, your in the zone. Small streamers are also an option, from 8-12 sizes.These get a bit fiddly for some people, however, so think dragonfly nymph and you're off to a good start.</p>
<p>WHY CHANGE?</p>
<p>The bigger fish typically retreat to water in 4-10' range by late morning, and some sort of cover. Ideally, this will also be within a short swim of a depth break to deeper water in the 10-20 ft range.</p>
<p>In the harsh, heavy glare and heat of Summer, you may have to go even deeper. All this means a fly that sinks, and probably some sort of weighted line arrangement, be it sinking tips, small shot or fully sinking line.</p>
<p>I usually chuck my fly rod by that point and go with very light spin gear. I'm not so much a fly devotee as an opportunist!</p> well in my defense Bruce says…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-15:2036984:Comment:6813302016-06-15T02:58:01.221ZSlip Sinkerhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/SlipSinker
<p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #1f497d; mso-themecolor: text2;">well in my defense Bruce says he only fishes "fly and no live bait" ... so i was all over it... this setup is really tagging the fish for me the past couple weeks... now if he would of said only flyrod....</span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #1f497d; mso-themecolor: text2;">well in my defense Bruce says he only fishes "fly and no live bait" ... so i was all over it... this setup is really tagging the fish for me the past couple weeks... now if he would of said only flyrod....</span></i></b></p> I'm pretty sure that's a prem…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-15:2036984:Comment:6813282016-06-15T02:10:37.255ZAllen Morganhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/AllenMorgan
<p>I'm pretty sure that's a premium quality Thill slipfloat. If you look at the end close to the bead, you'll see the rim of copper around the tube. That's to reduce friction from the line going through the float. Lower quality floats (even of that brand) usually have plastic there, and the line will wear a groove over time, catching the line and not slipping.</p>
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<p>I know you can get that particular float at BPS. Try other places as well. Even Wally world carries some nice…</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that's a premium quality Thill slipfloat. If you look at the end close to the bead, you'll see the rim of copper around the tube. That's to reduce friction from the line going through the float. Lower quality floats (even of that brand) usually have plastic there, and the line will wear a groove over time, catching the line and not slipping.</p>
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<p>I know you can get that particular float at BPS. Try other places as well. Even Wally world carries some nice slip-floats.</p>
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<p>The "stop" is actually the little bit of green string that's tied around the line. The bead serves to catch the stop, and the float catches on the bead. I've got some slip-floats that are so big (designed for catfish) that I'd have to use a small bead as pictured, and a really BIG bead for the float to catch on.</p>
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<p>You can get the stop-knots and beads at any place that sells slip-floats.</p> Can you purchase those hollow…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-14:2036984:Comment:6815952016-06-14T22:11:26.278ZBruce Tomasellihttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/BruceTomaselli
<p>Can you purchase those hollow floats anywhere? Is that yellow bead serve as a stop for the line and float?</p>
<p>Can you purchase those hollow floats anywhere? Is that yellow bead serve as a stop for the line and float?</p> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JIM HERE…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-13:2036984:Comment:6810672016-06-13T23:57:54.382Zcarl hendrixhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/carlhendrix
<p>I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JIM HERE;; ALSO;; FISH IN THE SHADE OF TREE LINES;; USUALLY AROUND 9 AM; THEY LOVE TO HIDE IN SHADY AREAS; DARTING IN AND OUT CATCHING INSECTS;; THE REAL ONLY TIME I USE A FLOAT; ( AND IT WILL BE A QUILL FLOAT ) IS WHEN I GO AFTER SUSPENDED FISH; WAY UP OFF THE BOTTOM;; OTHERWISE;; I JUST USE THE WF FLY LINE AS A INDICATOR;; BUT ALSO; SINCE I USE HI- VIS LINE;; I ALSO WATCH IT AS MOST TIMES ITS THE FIRST THING THAT TWITCHES !!</p>
<p>I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JIM HERE;; ALSO;; FISH IN THE SHADE OF TREE LINES;; USUALLY AROUND 9 AM; THEY LOVE TO HIDE IN SHADY AREAS; DARTING IN AND OUT CATCHING INSECTS;; THE REAL ONLY TIME I USE A FLOAT; ( AND IT WILL BE A QUILL FLOAT ) IS WHEN I GO AFTER SUSPENDED FISH; WAY UP OFF THE BOTTOM;; OTHERWISE;; I JUST USE THE WF FLY LINE AS A INDICATOR;; BUT ALSO; SINCE I USE HI- VIS LINE;; I ALSO WATCH IT AS MOST TIMES ITS THE FIRST THING THAT TWITCHES !!</p> floating WF fly line is a goo…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-13:2036984:Comment:6809642016-06-13T23:47:38.928Zjim cosgrovehttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/jimcosgrove
<p>floating WF fly line is a good indicator and it is already on your reel.just make the leader long and throw weighted flies into the shade of a deep weedline.they will be there just watch the end of your flyline/.i can still get them on top in the late aftermoon in the shadeline of shore trees.i know they call them sunfish but they avoid the high sun like most fish.they get in those weeds and sunken trees just like bass and munch on all sorts of bugs snails larvae etc.right before dark they…</p>
<p>floating WF fly line is a good indicator and it is already on your reel.just make the leader long and throw weighted flies into the shade of a deep weedline.they will be there just watch the end of your flyline/.i can still get them on top in the late aftermoon in the shadeline of shore trees.i know they call them sunfish but they avoid the high sun like most fish.they get in those weeds and sunken trees just like bass and munch on all sorts of bugs snails larvae etc.right before dark they come back to the surface to feed on bugs.</p> BRUCE;; IF YOU TRY CASTING A…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-13:2036984:Comment:6809512016-06-13T23:27:33.414Zcarl hendrixhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/carlhendrix
<p>BRUCE;; IF YOU TRY CASTING A SLIP FLOAT;; WITH A FLY ROD; BET IT WILL BE INTERESTING !! LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES !</p>
<p>BRUCE;; IF YOU TRY CASTING A SLIP FLOAT;; WITH A FLY ROD; BET IT WILL BE INTERESTING !! LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES !</p> I think I could throw that ri…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-13:2036984:Comment:6812472016-06-13T23:10:21.803ZBruce Tomasellihttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/BruceTomaselli
<p>I think I could throw that rig with a fly rod. Is that yellow bead to stop the bobber at the depth you want? Does the float slide freely on the leader?</p>
<p>I think I could throw that rig with a fly rod. Is that yellow bead to stop the bobber at the depth you want? Does the float slide freely on the leader?</p> You can put a weighted nymph…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-13:2036984:Comment:6811122016-06-13T01:36:43.510ZRob Bowenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/RobBowen
You can put a weighted nymph on, and use the count down method. Cast out and count down 5 seconds while the nymph sinks. If you don't get a strike, count down to 10 seconds. If you don't get a strike or loose your fly on the bottom you can even go deeper until you find the fish.<br />
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I've found fishing deep with a steady sinking fly line and a short leader is very effective for getting a fly deeper. I think a sinking line is better for getting the fly deep than fishing a floating line due to less…
You can put a weighted nymph on, and use the count down method. Cast out and count down 5 seconds while the nymph sinks. If you don't get a strike, count down to 10 seconds. If you don't get a strike or loose your fly on the bottom you can even go deeper until you find the fish.<br />
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I've found fishing deep with a steady sinking fly line and a short leader is very effective for getting a fly deeper. I think a sinking line is better for getting the fly deep than fishing a floating line due to less slack between you and the fly. I like to do a hopper/dropper…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-06-13:2036984:Comment:6809082016-06-13T00:39:43.671ZAllen Morganhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/AllenMorgan
<p>I like to do a hopper/dropper or popper/dropper. Two hooks is better than one. If you're fishing near weedy cover, there might be a Bass willing to inhale that surface bug.</p>
<p>I like to do a hopper/dropper or popper/dropper. Two hooks is better than one. If you're fishing near weedy cover, there might be a Bass willing to inhale that surface bug.</p>