Trash Fish Bucket List? - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T01:31:53Zhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/trash-fish-bucket-list?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A421195&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIve got a fly pattern called…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-03:2036984:Comment:4670382014-01-03T01:57:20.790ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>Ive got a fly pattern called the Cheesy Poof that is supposed to be a carp fly. You can look it up here:</p>
<p><a href="http://hatchesmagazine.com/blogs/Hatches/2012/01/26/cheesy-poof-carp-fly-by-nick-pionessa/" target="_blank">http://hatchesmagazine.com/blogs/Hatches/2012/01/26/cheesy-poof-carp-fly-by-nick-pionessa/</a></p>
<p>One of these days Ill catch another carp.</p>
<p>Ive got a fly pattern called the Cheesy Poof that is supposed to be a carp fly. You can look it up here:</p>
<p><a href="http://hatchesmagazine.com/blogs/Hatches/2012/01/26/cheesy-poof-carp-fly-by-nick-pionessa/" target="_blank">http://hatchesmagazine.com/blogs/Hatches/2012/01/26/cheesy-poof-carp-fly-by-nick-pionessa/</a></p>
<p>One of these days Ill catch another carp.</p> yes david the triploid as you…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-03:2036984:Comment:4671252014-01-03T01:26:45.213Zjim cosgrovehttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/jimcosgrove
<p>yes david the triploid as you said is used around here for controlling weeds.not supposed to fish for them but hey if they take my fly it's on.i never handle them,usually they break off or straighten the hook.i have a public quarry i fish that has 8 inch or so gills .it is at least 100 yaers old .was dug before modern machinery and is not very deep .lots of rock ledges and piles .lots of big weed beds and lilly pads.giant carp in here too.common carp up to 4o pounds or more.when they are…</p>
<p>yes david the triploid as you said is used around here for controlling weeds.not supposed to fish for them but hey if they take my fly it's on.i never handle them,usually they break off or straighten the hook.i have a public quarry i fish that has 8 inch or so gills .it is at least 100 yaers old .was dug before modern machinery and is not very deep .lots of rock ledges and piles .lots of big weed beds and lilly pads.giant carp in here too.common carp up to 4o pounds or more.when they are rooting in the weed beds they leave a trail of bubbles.then you know they are there.tough to get em to bite a fly tho.</p> Yeah, Jim. I know they are ar…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4671032014-01-02T23:56:48.672ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>Yeah, Jim. I know they are around... I just need to find em I guess, at least <em>cyprinius carpio,</em> the common carp.</p>
<p>We have triploid (sterile) grass carp in the large lakes around here, but they are off limits - a big no-no. The common brownies are not often seen by me at least.</p>
<p>MINUTIAE - carp were first imported to the US in the 1820's, far earlier than I had seen. They werent imported in large numbers as a food source (intended) until the late 1800's during U.S.…</p>
<p>Yeah, Jim. I know they are around... I just need to find em I guess, at least <em>cyprinius carpio,</em> the common carp.</p>
<p>We have triploid (sterile) grass carp in the large lakes around here, but they are off limits - a big no-no. The common brownies are not often seen by me at least.</p>
<p>MINUTIAE - carp were first imported to the US in the 1820's, far earlier than I had seen. They werent imported in large numbers as a food source (intended) until the late 1800's during U.S. Grant's administration.</p> Carp fishing in Europe is hug…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4672272014-01-02T22:14:14.233ZJoe Angeluccihttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JoeAngelucci
<p>Carp fishing in Europe is huge. Just look at the prices of Match Poles in the UK. Good poles run about USD 1,500.00 or more. Tackle is UL and hook sizes run 12 - 20. </p>
<p>Carp fishing in Europe is huge. Just look at the prices of Match Poles in the UK. Good poles run about USD 1,500.00 or more. Tackle is UL and hook sizes run 12 - 20. </p> i think they are pretty much…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4672262014-01-02T22:05:16.687Zjim cosgrovehttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/jimcosgrove
<p>i think they are pretty much everywhere david.there are some native species such as the red horse and sucker and buffalo in my region.the common carp was brought from europe and stocked by train i believe like the brown trout</p>
<p>i think they are pretty much everywhere david.there are some native species such as the red horse and sucker and buffalo in my region.the common carp was brought from europe and stocked by train i believe like the brown trout</p> great comment Jim!
tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4670832014-01-02T20:10:24.800ZJohn Sheehanhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnSheehan
<p>great comment Jim!</p>
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<p>great comment Jim!</p>
<p></p> Interesting observations on t…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4668962014-01-02T19:34:43.575ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>Interesting observations on the carp. I've seen them for years, as have most people. Everything from the jumbo browns and grassies to koi in backyard ponds. But I've never made a point to catch them.</p>
<p>In recent seasons, I have only glimpsed a few - not because of any shortage, but I just havent gotten around where they are. As far as I know, they are not widely distributed in my region</p>
<p>The common carp is actually relatively intelligent as fish go and not all that easy to fool.…</p>
<p>Interesting observations on the carp. I've seen them for years, as have most people. Everything from the jumbo browns and grassies to koi in backyard ponds. But I've never made a point to catch them.</p>
<p>In recent seasons, I have only glimpsed a few - not because of any shortage, but I just havent gotten around where they are. As far as I know, they are not widely distributed in my region</p>
<p>The common carp is actually relatively intelligent as fish go and not all that easy to fool. Also, being great foraging cows, lures and baits for them are unlike what mainstream Fish America is hawking to the masses. I have heard a local lake, Greenwood, has a population of them and there are some dedicated Carp-a-teers over there.</p>
<p>Just once, I'd like to eat some. If I like it, twice.</p> i hear ya david,i used to hav…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4667692014-01-02T18:56:14.159Zjim cosgrovehttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/jimcosgrove
<p>i hear ya david,i used to have similar attitudes as it was popular belief years ago.i used to catch really large bowfin with my gramps on the kankakee river.they called em bleeders and i found out why.they would cut their heads off and watch em bleed.yet they viewed river suckers as a delicacy .my fishing club has hybrid grass carp for vegetation control.i have hooked about a dozen on flies the last few years.beached 3.i just get their head on shore and unhook em.some of these carp approach…</p>
<p>i hear ya david,i used to have similar attitudes as it was popular belief years ago.i used to catch really large bowfin with my gramps on the kankakee river.they called em bleeders and i found out why.they would cut their heads off and watch em bleed.yet they viewed river suckers as a delicacy .my fishing club has hybrid grass carp for vegetation control.i have hooked about a dozen on flies the last few years.beached 3.i just get their head on shore and unhook em.some of these carp approach 60 + pounds and are vegetarians so not easy to fool or bring in.i fish for these {not supposed to fish for them} with a 5wt.reminds me of tarpon fishing in the keys years ago.carp are the biggest fish that swim in most bow.someplaces the only fish.i really have respect for them and the bass seem to be bigger in lakes that have big carp.i think cause they root around exposing prey for predatory fish.</p> I get why people call them tr…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-02:2036984:Comment:4668412014-01-02T02:07:28.872ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>I get why people call them trash fish, but Ive never seen any fish that way. They are all worth catching in my opinion. Most are worth eating, in some way. None deserve to die, brutalized and treated like trash.</p>
<p>I get why people call them trash fish, but Ive never seen any fish that way. They are all worth catching in my opinion. Most are worth eating, in some way. None deserve to die, brutalized and treated like trash.</p> absolutely jose,why are they…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2014-01-01:2036984:Comment:4666092014-01-01T22:21:14.451Zjim cosgrovehttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/jimcosgrove
<p>absolutely jose,why are they trash?we pollute the water so bad that only fish that can survive in marginal water are left,around here it would be carp and bullheads.carp can survive where many so called game fish cannot.we pollute the water and blame the carp .i have seen carp not only thrown on the shore but abused before hand.i do not like cruelty in any form.let it go or eat it.at least humanely kill it and put it to some sort of use.feed the raccoons or fertilize your garden.river…</p>
<p>absolutely jose,why are they trash?we pollute the water so bad that only fish that can survive in marginal water are left,around here it would be carp and bullheads.carp can survive where many so called game fish cannot.we pollute the water and blame the carp .i have seen carp not only thrown on the shore but abused before hand.i do not like cruelty in any form.let it go or eat it.at least humanely kill it and put it to some sort of use.feed the raccoons or fertilize your garden.river suckers and buffalo are native carp and people have always eaten them.smoked or a north woods favorite sucker patties.</p>