Pond at work, 7/20/2013 - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-28T20:23:07Zhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/pond-at-work-7-20-2013?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A412736&feed=yes&xn_auth=nonow youre talking my speed. A…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-25:2036984:Comment:4127572013-07-25T00:24:18.357ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>now youre talking my speed. A "bead chain marabou bugger" I can understand!</p>
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<p>now youre talking my speed. A "bead chain marabou bugger" I can understand!</p>
<p>LOL</p> Don't remind me about back to…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-25:2036984:Comment:4128372013-07-25T00:19:15.025ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Don't remind me about back to school...UGHH..</p>
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<p>Got the point on the thread and the wing case. The original instruction in 1997 indicated just to use the wooly bugger body to simulate wing case, where the tail provides that enticement of the emerging damsel fly. Good enough for me. Less work, more play.</p>
<p>Don't remind me about back to school...UGHH..</p>
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<p>Got the point on the thread and the wing case. The original instruction in 1997 indicated just to use the wooly bugger body to simulate wing case, where the tail provides that enticement of the emerging damsel fly. Good enough for me. Less work, more play.</p> I can understand that! They'…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-25:2036984:Comment:4129312013-07-25T00:04:09.006ZAllen Morganhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/AllenMorgan
<p>I can understand that! They'll be going back to school soon.......I can't wait!</p>
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<p>I forgot to mention. My first tie, used black thread. That fly has held up rather well. My subsequent ties have utilized a 6/0 brown thread. What I've noticed, is that within the first few casts, the thread wraps that hold the tail together manage to come off. This basically turns the "Flicted Damsel" into a Bead Chain Marabou Wooly Bugger, with a pheasant tail wingcase and legs. It does NOT…</p>
<p>I can understand that! They'll be going back to school soon.......I can't wait!</p>
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<p>I forgot to mention. My first tie, used black thread. That fly has held up rather well. My subsequent ties have utilized a 6/0 brown thread. What I've noticed, is that within the first few casts, the thread wraps that hold the tail together manage to come off. This basically turns the "Flicted Damsel" into a Bead Chain Marabou Wooly Bugger, with a pheasant tail wingcase and legs. It does NOT diminish the catching abilities of the fly.</p>
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<p>Take it for what it's worth. If you find this tie to be a little to involved, forget about doing the whole detached body on a needle thing. Just tie a Bead Chain marabou bugger. I'm not even sure if the wing case and legs are needed; I haven't tried a marabou bugger yet.</p> Got the logistic of the tye.…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4127462013-07-24T23:30:02.151ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Got the logistic of the tye. You material description placed it over the top. Will definitely try on my day off, when the kids don't drive me insane.</p>
<p>Got the logistic of the tye. You material description placed it over the top. Will definitely try on my day off, when the kids don't drive me insane.</p> I actually do have a handheld…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4126722013-07-24T23:13:25.134ZAllen Morganhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/AllenMorgan
<p>I actually do have a handheld barometer in my vehicle. I usually set the gold arm at the air pressure at the start of the trip. When I come back, I look at it again to see if the air pressure has fallen or risen while I was fishing. I usually start a text message to someone on my phone, record water temp, air pressure, flow rate (if known) etc. I then "save as draft" and wait until I get home to enter that data into my fishing log.</p>
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<p>I probably should try to do a…</p>
<p>I actually do have a handheld barometer in my vehicle. I usually set the gold arm at the air pressure at the start of the trip. When I come back, I look at it again to see if the air pressure has fallen or risen while I was fishing. I usually start a text message to someone on my phone, record water temp, air pressure, flow rate (if known) etc. I then "save as draft" and wait until I get home to enter that data into my fishing log.</p>
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<p>I probably should try to do a step-by-step, with pics. It will be the first one of those for me, if I do it.</p>
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<p>Materials:</p>
<p>size 8 wet fly hook</p>
<p>eyes: black bead chain</p>
<p>thread: 6/0, in a color a little darker than the marabou</p>
<p>Tail: marabou feather, olive, green, etc. This is tied as an extended body.</p>
<p>Body: The remainder of the marabou feather, twisted into a rope.</p>
<p>Wingcase: pheasant tail fibers</p>
<p>Legs: remainder of the Pheasant fibers.</p>
<p>Head: thread</p>
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<p>I start this one a large needle mounted in the vise. Start the thread on the needle, then tie in the feather about 1/2" from the tip. A couple wraps to secure the feather to the needle, then spiral the thread back, towards the tip of the feather. You want to stop when you get about 1/8" from the tip. Give it a couple wraps, then spiral back to the tie-in point. Secure it with a few half-hitches. I do a BIG loop for the half-hitches, so I can feed the entire feather through the loop. DO NOT cut the feather! Once you get the half-hitches done (I usually do three), cut the thread, and slide the feather off the needle.</p>
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<p>Mount a hook in the vise. Start the thread, then tie-in the eyes. I like to put a little Sally Hansen's on the figure-eight wraps for the eyes. Advance the thread to the bend of the hook, and tie-in the feather. I like to tie the feather in not where I've already wrapped it, but just in front of that, so that the tail will "waggle" a bit in the water. Once the tail is secured, advance the thread to just behind the eyes. Twist the feather into a "rope" of marabou, then wrap that around the hook until you reach the eyes. Capture the feather with the thread, give it a few wraps, then cut the feather. Wind the thread around the body a bit towards teh bend again. Take the pheasant tie fibers, tie them down with the cut end facing forward. Advance the thread back to behind the eyes. Pull the Pheasant fibers forward, over the eye of the hook, and capture with the thread. Split the fibers into right and left, pull them back towards the tail, and tie them down with thread. Coat the wing case with Flexament, if desired. Form the head with thread just in front of the eyes, then whip finish, cut the thread, and coat with Sally Hansen's.</p> The weather station will prov…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4127422013-07-24T22:33:34.847ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>The weather station will provide all that in a general overview. Down on the water is a whole different monster when it comes to water and air temps.</p>
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<p>Got some info on how to tie the flicted damsel nymph. Will try at the small scale. I don't think I have large enough material to make for the 4/0 hooks.</p>
<p>The weather station will provide all that in a general overview. Down on the water is a whole different monster when it comes to water and air temps.</p>
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<p>Got some info on how to tie the flicted damsel nymph. Will try at the small scale. I don't think I have large enough material to make for the 4/0 hooks.</p> I didn't think to look at my…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4126642013-07-24T22:15:50.646ZAllen Morganhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/AllenMorgan
<p>I didn't think to look at my barometer. It was in my PFD.</p>
<p>I didn't think to look at my barometer. It was in my PFD.</p> Thanks Allen. Now it's more c…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4129212013-07-24T21:43:10.076ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Thanks Allen. Now it's more completed.</p>
<p>Thanks Allen. Now it's more completed.</p> Leo, I've posted a few pics o…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4127362013-07-24T21:41:01.624ZAllen Morganhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/AllenMorgan
<p>Leo, I've posted a few pics of the the bug in question. It's called a "Flicted Damsel".</p>
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<p>I didn't take a water temp reading, but I'm assuming that water temps are in the mid-80's. Air temps were mid- to upper-90's.</p>
<p>Leo, I've posted a few pics of the the bug in question. It's called a "Flicted Damsel".</p>
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<p>I didn't take a water temp reading, but I'm assuming that water temps are in the mid-80's. Air temps were mid- to upper-90's.</p> Indeed, nice narrative. For t…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-24:2036984:Comment:4127192013-07-24T16:26:45.890ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Indeed, nice narrative. For the bug, mind attaching the bug's in its full form in a link. Air and water temp if you have it will increase the data collection even further. Great work Allen.</p>
<p>Indeed, nice narrative. For the bug, mind attaching the bug's in its full form in a link. Air and water temp if you have it will increase the data collection even further. Great work Allen.</p>