Is BBG Ready for National TV? - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T14:41:55Zhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/is-bbg-ready-for-national-tv?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A355089&feed=yes&xn_auth=no With the amount of members w…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-27:2036984:Comment:3570522013-02-27T22:16:41.745ZNathanael Deloachhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/NathanaelDeloach
<p> With the amount of members we have I'm sure there is a connection with a tv producer somewhere......really like the idea, sign me up lets go! </p>
<p> With the amount of members we have I'm sure there is a connection with a tv producer somewhere......really like the idea, sign me up lets go! </p> Nice to release giant bluegil…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-26:2036984:Comment:3564372013-02-26T13:48:23.160ZJohn Cachelhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnCachel
<p>Nice to release giant bluegills on tv then more people will let big bluegills back to water!</p>
<p>Nice to release giant bluegills on tv then more people will let big bluegills back to water!</p> I love the term, "recruitment…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-25:2036984:Comment:3563232013-02-25T14:37:19.167ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>I love the term, "recruitment" :-)</p>
<p>I love the term, "recruitment" :-)</p> Sorry, Tony....I forgot to me…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3555842013-02-22T19:21:56.274ZJim Gronawhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JimGronaw
<p>Sorry, Tony....I forgot to mention one of my favorites, and certainly the premier pound for pound scrapper. IMO. would be those giant hybrid sunfish we so dearly love. They are truely rermarkable fish!</p>
<p>Sorry, Tony....I forgot to mention one of my favorites, and certainly the premier pound for pound scrapper. IMO. would be those giant hybrid sunfish we so dearly love. They are truely rermarkable fish!</p> Although Tony makes note of t…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3553532013-02-22T16:55:07.679Zdick tabberthttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/dicktabbert
<p>Although Tony makes note of the hybrid bluegill rightfully so a cross between a green sunfish and a bluegill. They are stronger and do grow more quickly. Although our nature animals don't always stay in there particular species to bred. In the animal world when they go outside the species (fish to fish ,duck to duck ect.) we call the offspring hybrids and usually it dominate more strongly in one of the parents characteristics with a slight characteristic of the others which may be ever so…</p>
<p>Although Tony makes note of the hybrid bluegill rightfully so a cross between a green sunfish and a bluegill. They are stronger and do grow more quickly. Although our nature animals don't always stay in there particular species to bred. In the animal world when they go outside the species (fish to fish ,duck to duck ect.) we call the offspring hybrids and usually it dominate more strongly in one of the parents characteristics with a slight characteristic of the others which may be ever so slight sometime so slight we can't make out which 2 species they are. </p> Understood David, and no offe…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3553502013-02-22T16:47:07.526ZTony Livingstonhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>Understood David, and no offense taken sir! I guess I consider a hybrid fish to be a natural extension of a "regular?" fish, in that as you stated, they occur in the wild also. Look at Hybrid Striped Bass, and how popular they are. Or. closer to home, the Gillcracker.... we all love to catch those, but the truth is, they're a naturally occuring hybrid...and they are predominantly male, just like my HBG.</p>
<p>If a hybrid can occur naturally, in the wild, then I don't think it makes a…</p>
<p>Understood David, and no offense taken sir! I guess I consider a hybrid fish to be a natural extension of a "regular?" fish, in that as you stated, they occur in the wild also. Look at Hybrid Striped Bass, and how popular they are. Or. closer to home, the Gillcracker.... we all love to catch those, but the truth is, they're a naturally occuring hybrid...and they are predominantly male, just like my HBG.</p>
<p>If a hybrid can occur naturally, in the wild, then I don't think it makes a difference whether or not the one I happen to be holding at the moment was born at a hatchery, or in my local pond....the fish is the same either way. To my knowledge, there are no instances of someone selectively breeding male BG to female GSF in reference to encouraging certain traits....although I have thought about it myself. The HBG one purchases from a hatchery are simply run of the mill fish.....although I would love to find some that had been selectively bred. ( No Georgia Giants please!)</p>
<p>Also, HBG are generally recognized as one of the most common fish purchased for stocking by homeowners....maybe THE most popular. They aren't scarce, although you probably won't find many stocked hybrids in public waters due to their limited reproduction potential, and inadequacy where providing forage is concerned. In my opinion, that doesn't make them any less desirable, or any less sought after as a sport fish....and take it from a guy who's caught both....you tie a HBG tail-to-tail with a comparably sized native BG, and the hybrid will pull that poor native fish backwards through the water until it drowns!</p>
<p>And yes, if the fish is allowed to reproduce the succeeding generations will usually display outbreeding depression. That is the entire key with this fish, as far as I'm concerned....I don't allow recruitment to take place, or I should say I do my best to prevent it....there will always be some that survive. It's like a huge cornfield: that farmer plants seed every year, as corn is not an annual. He or she doesn't expect to plant seed one time and get a harvest every year thereafter...HBG, or most hybrid fish for that matter, are the same way. You need to restock in order to maintain fish for harvest.</p> I certainly appreciate a plug…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3553412013-02-22T16:18:38.733ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"https://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>I certainly appreciate a plug. Having some marketing in my background, I like a good a salespitch...</p>
<p>I have never seen a hybrid bluegill that I know of. I'm pretty sure they don't swim in the waters where I fish, Lake Murray, SC. From my years of raising chickens, I know that hybrids as we usually define them, i.e., in the manufactured sense, are unnatural.</p>
<p>Certainly, animals will interbreed in Nature where possible and so create crosses. Fish are no different. But I believe…</p>
<p>I certainly appreciate a plug. Having some marketing in my background, I like a good a salespitch...</p>
<p>I have never seen a hybrid bluegill that I know of. I'm pretty sure they don't swim in the waters where I fish, Lake Murray, SC. From my years of raising chickens, I know that hybrids as we usually define them, i.e., in the manufactured sense, are unnatural.</p>
<p>Certainly, animals will interbreed in Nature where possible and so create crosses. Fish are no different. But I believe the hybrids you are referring to are intentionally bred by humans under controlled conditions, for trait predominance.</p>
<p>The downside to this is that they wont breed the same in succeeding generations. The first offspring are it - thereafter the tendency of all hybridized creatures is to revert back to the something resembling the parent stock. You end up with "mutts" that no longer possess the desirable hybrid qualities, nor those of the parent stock. The feral hog is a classic example of this.</p>
<p>A feral hog is a domestic escapee, a hybridized animal gone 'wild,' so to speak. It is a pig that, once it is living and breeding in Nature, becomes brutish, tough and wary. With swine, this is accelerated and happens very quickly; it is noted to occur even with the original animals and is prominent within the first generation. This new creature is nothing like the docile farm pig from which it sprang. The longer it breeds in Nature, too, the more it becomes like the original ancestor, the true wild boar.</p>
<p>The feral hog story is fascinating and I love to tell it. I have seen some monstrous ones, myself. They defy logic, really. To think that their parents were in a pen just down the road, only a few years before, well... it boggles the mind.</p>
<p>Please bear with me, Tony. I'm not trying to be completely nitpicky, here. I just reckon the hybrid distinction should be clarified. Otherwise, someone is liable to go down to their local lake looking for "some of them hybrids that Livingston fella was talking about."</p> They are fun to catch as the…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3552752013-02-22T16:10:59.082Zdick tabberthttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/dicktabbert
<p>They are fun to catch as the rest of the sunfish family and pound for pound them little things can fight imagine catching a 1 pounder or that monster of our dreams a 2pounder or larger can you imagine what a fight could be had from a specimen of that caliber. WOW</p>
<p>They are fun to catch as the rest of the sunfish family and pound for pound them little things can fight imagine catching a 1 pounder or that monster of our dreams a 2pounder or larger can you imagine what a fight could be had from a specimen of that caliber. WOW</p> Redear are superb fighters al…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3553382013-02-22T15:34:33.298ZTony Livingstonhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>Redear are superb fighters alright. But I can't pass up the opportunity to plug my favorite fish....Hybrid Bluegills will lay a native BG to shame in the 'fight' department.....</p>
<p>Redear are superb fighters alright. But I can't pass up the opportunity to plug my favorite fish....Hybrid Bluegills will lay a native BG to shame in the 'fight' department.....</p> David, that's what happened t…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-02-22:2036984:Comment:3554822013-02-22T15:05:55.814ZJason Preslarhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/jasonpreslar
<p>David, that's what happened to me. I caught a monster redbreast and some crackers one day while just messing around and like i've stated before it was like trying to pull the plug out of the bottom of the water. The crackers were over a pound and on an ultralight that's a blast. I've got pics of both in my profile.</p>
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<p>David, that's what happened to me. I caught a monster redbreast and some crackers one day while just messing around and like i've stated before it was like trying to pull the plug out of the bottom of the water. The crackers were over a pound and on an ultralight that's a blast. I've got pics of both in my profile.</p>
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