Handling catches vertically - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-28T12:40:17Zhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/handling-catches-vertically?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A397110&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIndeed, they work well. Prope…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4350792013-09-23T23:05:06.441ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Indeed, they work well. Proper handling and releasing techniques work, not flawlessly, but remarkably well. When all else failed with gently handling, cut the hook off, and let the fish survive with deep hookset. Chance of survival is still slim, rather than none. The funny thing about the argument that only the bellied up fish are the proof of dead ones. Tony indicator that the sunken ones are the uncounted victims which we won't know until we're searching for them. Of course, the kitties…</p>
<p>Indeed, they work well. Proper handling and releasing techniques work, not flawlessly, but remarkably well. When all else failed with gently handling, cut the hook off, and let the fish survive with deep hookset. Chance of survival is still slim, rather than none. The funny thing about the argument that only the bellied up fish are the proof of dead ones. Tony indicator that the sunken ones are the uncounted victims which we won't know until we're searching for them. Of course, the kitties will make meals out of them before the gas can make the bodies float.</p> Indeed Jacob. You should have…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4351532013-09-23T23:01:11.864ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Indeed Jacob. You should have read the replies on the site. It's based more on the challenge of "Where's the proof?" Other chimed in with various study to provide the proof of vertical holding vs proper horizontal holding. Sour grapes were sweetened by scientific refinement. It's a touchy subject indeed, and the guys that I fish with still handle things extremely vertical, and horizontally cranked the mouth of the pour bass so wide that you can practically see the jaw being damaged.</p>
<p>Indeed Jacob. You should have read the replies on the site. It's based more on the challenge of "Where's the proof?" Other chimed in with various study to provide the proof of vertical holding vs proper horizontal holding. Sour grapes were sweetened by scientific refinement. It's a touchy subject indeed, and the guys that I fish with still handle things extremely vertical, and horizontally cranked the mouth of the pour bass so wide that you can practically see the jaw being damaged.</p> I think CPR works rather well…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4350782013-09-23T22:54:45.054ZMarkhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/Mark619
I think CPR works rather well, ESP when compared to just taking them home to eat ;) . I caught a catfish last weekend that had the hook so deep I just couldn't get it so after five minutes of trying I let him go with hook inside his throat . Caught the same fish Last night in the same spot, still had my silver circle hook inside its throat a d he was out hunting . CPR works .
I think CPR works rather well, ESP when compared to just taking them home to eat ;) . I caught a catfish last weekend that had the hook so deep I just couldn't get it so after five minutes of trying I let him go with hook inside his throat . Caught the same fish Last night in the same spot, still had my silver circle hook inside its throat a d he was out hunting . CPR works . I think the sour grapes are u…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4350772013-09-23T22:50:45.509ZJacob Hillhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JacobHill
<p>I think the sour grapes are understandable considering it's a touchy topic and Leo was, well, rather blunt about it. I have a bit more optimistic view on the success of CPR but the jury is still out on that. Something undeniable is that cradling the fish with two hands will always help, and wetting your hands before you touch the body of the fish is a must.</p>
<p>I think the sour grapes are understandable considering it's a touchy topic and Leo was, well, rather blunt about it. I have a bit more optimistic view on the success of CPR but the jury is still out on that. Something undeniable is that cradling the fish with two hands will always help, and wetting your hands before you touch the body of the fish is a must.</p> Sour grapes are generated bas…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4352202013-09-23T15:20:58.171ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Sour grapes are generated based on personal ideals that would not like to be changed. Common human behaviors. Scientific explanations are merely the starting point, which doesn't end anything and everything. It's just provides us a better understanding of the 5 Ws: who, what, where, when, why. Then toss in the How as well.</p>
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<p>If those who like some scientific background explanation and convincing, please, feel free to let them know that I'm more than willing to share my…</p>
<p>Sour grapes are generated based on personal ideals that would not like to be changed. Common human behaviors. Scientific explanations are merely the starting point, which doesn't end anything and everything. It's just provides us a better understanding of the 5 Ws: who, what, where, when, why. Then toss in the How as well.</p>
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<p>If those who like some scientific background explanation and convincing, please, feel free to let them know that I'm more than willing to share my knowledge.</p> The post on Pensacola Fishing…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4353112013-09-23T09:13:54.851ZJ. B. Hillardhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JBHillard738
<p>The post on Pensacola Fishing Forum generated a good discussion. Some of it is scientific. Other comments are sour grapes.</p>
<p>The post on Pensacola Fishing Forum generated a good discussion. Some of it is scientific. Other comments are sour grapes.</p> You're more than welcome JB.…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-23:2036984:Comment:4352002013-09-23T03:16:37.729ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>You're more than welcome JB. Let me know if we can provide additional insights from different perspectives.</p>
<p>You're more than welcome JB. Let me know if we can provide additional insights from different perspectives.</p> That's an interesting topic…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-09-22:2036984:Comment:4349622013-09-22T11:46:31.898ZJ. B. Hillardhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JBHillard738
<p>That's an interesting topic discussion on how to handle fish. Your take seems to be just common sense to me. I never really thought about it before. I took the liberty of posting this on Pensacola Fishing Forum to see what sort of discussion might be generated there. Thanks for bringing this up for all of us to think about.</p>
<p>That's an interesting topic discussion on how to handle fish. Your take seems to be just common sense to me. I never really thought about it before. I took the liberty of posting this on Pensacola Fishing Forum to see what sort of discussion might be generated there. Thanks for bringing this up for all of us to think about.</p> some good info to think about…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-16:2036984:Comment:4095072013-07-16T02:40:15.156ZMarkhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/Mark619
<p>some good info to think about, i felt guilty of the "throw back" a few nights ago.i was worried about not being able to see where my legs and feet were safe from mr no shoulders so i tossed one back further than i normally do. one of the ponds i fish has some cotton mouth snakes that like to hang around the grass and reeds. one of them chased me from one side of the pond to the other i let him have the pond the rest of the night. i was fishing on the west bank and i saw him swimming at me…</p>
<p>some good info to think about, i felt guilty of the "throw back" a few nights ago.i was worried about not being able to see where my legs and feet were safe from mr no shoulders so i tossed one back further than i normally do. one of the ponds i fish has some cotton mouth snakes that like to hang around the grass and reeds. one of them chased me from one side of the pond to the other i let him have the pond the rest of the night. i was fishing on the west bank and i saw him swimming at me so i reeled in and walked around to the east bank five minutes later he was swimming at me again mouth open... i do my best to avoid the snakes but some of them seem to just come after you if they see you. normally i take the fish as close to the water as possible if not in the water to let them go. when i hook a bigger one i cant get my hands on easily i will lay them down on my tailgate or on the ground on a towel or t shirt to remove the hook then put them back in the water. i figure its a lot safer than them slipping out of my hands and falling a few feet to the ground. </p> Seeing is believing. Adam did…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-07-08:2036984:Comment:4071962013-07-08T22:48:21.146ZLeo Nguyenhttps://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Seeing is believing. Adam did a great job in pointing out that, even with proper CPR, we won't know unless we practically swim with the fishes until they recover.</p>
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<p><a href="http://bigbluegill.com/photo/22-largemouth-bass-6-13-13-2?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A406963&xg_source=msg_com_photo" target="_self">Example of problems unseen</a></p>
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<p>We may suspect overall great techniques of CPR, but what seem healthy, well handled situations tend to go south real fast.…</p>
<p>Seeing is believing. Adam did a great job in pointing out that, even with proper CPR, we won't know unless we practically swim with the fishes until they recover.</p>
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<p><a href="http://bigbluegill.com/photo/22-largemouth-bass-6-13-13-2?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A406963&xg_source=msg_com_photo" target="_self">Example of problems unseen</a></p>
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<p>We may suspect overall great techniques of CPR, but what seem healthy, well handled situations tend to go south real fast. We may catch double digits prizes, believing they are great and healthy during our releases, as we toss them like they're frisbees (not you Adam!), but we won't know until we see the belly-up body counts in the later days if they actually float. Those that don't, we won't know. True heart breaking to see such beautiful and prized sizes monsters pass on.</p>