Do you love big bluegill?
I would just like to add that a reel with a larger spool, 25 series reels, Pflueger Arbor, etc. , will help your casting distance. The larger spools lets the line off easier than ultralight reels.
I really need to get out and take an actual casting measurement.
For long casts, I use a 6'9" St. Croix Ultralight, fast tip with a Shimano Ci4+ 1000 series reel. The reel is very smooth but the trick for me has been using 2 lbs. Sufix Nanobraid (just to be clear, not Berkley's Nanofil . . . though it is a fine line, too).
Sufix claims this Dyneema traditional braid is .001" in diameter. If you take its stated metric measurement, I believe it comes back via a conversion as .00157" so a bit larger. Whichever is correct, it is just really super thin.
So, throwing a jighead of .7 grams or approximately 1/40th an ounce with a tiny 2" grub, I suppose I am well over 60 feet. With a larger jighead coming in at 1.7 grams, I guess, what, about 1/17th of an ounce, it casts like a bullet. Much farther.
However, for practical reasons, since I fish from a kayak, seated, I prefer my moderate action 5 foot rod. It loads up well, makes very accurate casts in all directions: to the front, to either side, almost behind me. I don't need long casts from a kayak since I can float up on my target.
I, too, really like to cast far at times and cover water with my long rod, no float, just a steady retrieval to keep it off the grassy bottom in our lake. Lots of fun! Brad
There is a much more intuitive way to describe how a spool of line should be positioned for a spinning reel versus a casting reel. Instead of defining it by labels up or down and clockwise/counterclockwise, I tell people that for a spinning reel the line spool should feed off the bottom of a vertically positioned line spool, that is, analogous to a softball under-handed pitch. For a casting reel, for a vertical line spool, it should come off the top like fast ball pitching.
In each case, the objective is to take whatever line bias has developed on the line on a line spool and arrange it the same way on the reel's spool.
Everyone knows that most garden hoses develop a bias before we ever take them out of the hardware store . . . trying to wind it up in the opposite direction after using it has the hose acting all wicky-wacky. Same with many fishing lines.
None of this applies to braid, by the way, where I still follow the rule . . . but braid doesn't carry any bias across one spool to another.
KELLY-- FOR WHAT ITS WORTH;;; WHENEVER I DO USE MY SPIN RODS;; AT THE END OF THE DAY; BEFORE GOING IN;; I CUT OFF ; ANY TYPE OF CRANKBAIT; HOOK; SPINNER JIG OR WHAT EVER-- TRIP THE BAIL;; LET THE LINE GO;; INTO THE WATER AND JUST KEEP GOING;; TILL I GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SPOOL;; THEN ; DRAG IT A BIT MORE;; LETTING THE WATER ITSELF;; STRAIGHTEN THE LINE OUT FOR ME;;;;;; THEN; HAND SET THE BAIL OVER; START RE-WINDING ! IN THIS MANNER;; THE LINE WILL BE FREE OF TWIST AND TURNS;; THE NEXT TRIP OUT ! I ALSO USE;; A LINE DRESSING;; TO HELP KEEP TWIST;; TO A ALMOST NON- EXTENCE;; SOMETIMES; I USE ;; WD 40 ON MY LINE;; BUT;; THERE ARE OTHER; BETTER LINE DRESSINGS TO USE !!
Kelly, my primary fishing kayak is a Native Propel 10, primarily a pedaling kayak . . . though I often raise the drive and use my paddle when I am in or around grass. Funny: I wrote a short blog piece for a Native Watercraft Owners Group and the title was something like "Finesse Kayaking" which was my term describing sort of a minimalist approach to fishing from a kayak. What I meant was taking out a lightly outfitted kayak. What I had noticed was I had developed a typical "rookie" rigging where I attempted to carry everything I owned out with me. Now, I rarely carry a third rod, usually one Plano box for terminal tackle, and fisherman's bag for plastics and lures. Yes, water and life jackets and more, too, but I go out light.
*** Just quickly, back on fishing line again, I went out today and had absolutely no luck with a wacky rigged Reins worm for bass. And, my normal spot for big gills netted me nothing. After an hour or so, I ended up fishing deep in the lily pads in another location and I could hear the "kissing" noise of bluegills hitting bugs on top of the water all around me. So, I reached back and grabbed my 5 ft. St Croix ultra-light with the 2 lbs. Nanobraid, made one cast and hooked up. I really didn't think much of the action, but maybe I thought I had a large gill. No, too much pressure . . . my rod was bent like a horseshoe. I more or less reeled the fish in a bit, the kayak actually moved to it, too. I reached over and lifted the fish with a ton of coontail weed all over it . . . and it was a bass pretty close to 4 lbs. So, it was the largest fish I have caught, so far, on 2 lbs. Nanobraid. Other than one more fish, a crappie, that was it and I headed back in to dodge the heavy rain coming in out here in East Texas. I love this line! Cheers! Brad
I have lost a little distance by switching up from 3# & 4# Nano to 8# Gliss but I sacrificed a little distance for strength. I landed a nice C.Cat yesterday that I would of never have landed with 2# mono. 8# GLISS has 2# mono diameter.
In 12 years of using super lines I have never had a fish break-off.
if you need to cast tiny jigs far in open water try some 3# or 4# Nano ... it'll blow you away.
2lb would be better for more distance but 4 is fine. Never overspool your spool that's a bad mistake always leave a little room on the spool.