Slip Floating

Last year (2009)was the first year slip floating for me and found it to be very effective.Would like folks that are into this kind of fishing to post photos of gear and tips on the best rods ,reels ,bait and terminal tackle to use.
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  • Johnny wilkins

    I did some homework and posted a blog article about fish feeding. I found some great videos which will show you how fish feed. Must-see video for all. Take a peek for my live bait fans and see what the floats will do for your game. I am so excited to fish I might drive 3 hours next week to the warm water!
  • Johnny wilkins

    Slider rigs- if you fish brush structure or fixed floats are deadly. Instead of getting up on the structure, try firing in from 15 - 20 yards out. The fish won't be spooked and you may find a large group suspended in the area between you and the structure. I used to fish with a neighbor at camp who would drive right to the center of the fish crib and drop anchor dead down the middle. It would take a long time for the fish to settle down.
    I will have slip float rigs that you can work at 20 - 40 yards. One big factor reducing cast is the heavy line. I fish a 3 lb. Main line as thin line creates less drag through the guides. You have all done well putting rigs together- I would say I buy no tackle from Walmart. Thier entire isle is empty of great bluegill gear like a good local tackle store would have. I can't wait for open water and video.
    John
  • John Sheehan

    Thanks John. Where and what tackle do you buy?
  • John Cachel

    I use slip and fixed floats for years. I like to use my 13 ft match rod and fixed float as deep as 12 feet. Cast far out from shore and use giant leaf, leech or big redworm for BIG bluegills. I was member of the Chicagoland Bank Anglers and friend of Mick Thill. My personal best is over 100 fish per hour but now I dont do match fishing anymore because I search for trophy panfish!
    I also like to use two 7 ft med-light rods, slip bobbers and minnows for big crappies. 6 lbs line for heavy covers as woods, weeds and edge of any covers while 4 lbs line for open water. 2 lbs line if I have to for very spooky big 'gills in crystal clear water. I used Thill floats because easy to find them in good tackle shops. I also like some Polish floats but hard to find them! I have some England floats but its so small and great for lot of small fish in short of time.
    Anyone want to try slip float .... long rods like 7 ft light or med-light is better, between 4 and 6 lbs test line depends on where you fish and what bait you use, fish deeper for big bluegills and use whole bait like giant redworm, small nightcrawlers and leech tip on sharp fresh hook. Please let big bluegill, giant crappie and jumbo perch back to water for future trophy fish!
  • John Sheehan

    Great post John C-Thank You!!
  • Jeremy R. Mayo

    anybody use braid while slip floating. I fish super heavy cover and was thinkin that 20lb braid was equal to 6lb tst. help to get it up in the thick of thangs?
  • Jeremy R. Mayo

    will the braid be more apt to fall apart under heavy cover?
  • John Cachel

    Braid line might wokt on fixed float because I don't think that bobber stopper might hold on braid line very well.
  • Johnny wilkins

    One thing they don't tell you- leave the tails long on that slip knot. I used to trim mine down but learned from true pros leave those long and they fly through the guides better. Some of that yarn is bulky when you tie it on. I now use the same line on my spool to make two slip knots on the line using the mono. Leave 2 - 3" tails and it flies through the guides better. You might not have to get bigger guides using this trick.
  • Jeremy R. Mayo

    I have never used the thread type for bobber stoppers.
  • Jeremy R. Mayo

    Sorry "FLOAT" stopper!
  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    Something I discovered this past winter...really cold weather + no hut = frozen slip bobbers. :D
  • Johnny wilkins

    2 lb. - that appears to be like a really good setup!
    I will get you a slip float and some attachments that will really make your casts longer.
    The 1/2-inch tags could be 2 or 3" long as long as they aren't less than 1/2 inch. You will find longer tails on those will go through your guides easier.
  • Jeff Soto

    I am interested in trying this method at my local lake that has some huge BGs in it. We usually fish tiny jigs and crickets in 8 to 12 ft of water and use very light lines, 2 and 4 lb test. I have fished with bobbers, but for whatever reason, I have never tried "slip bobber" fishing before. I'm hoping to learn how with this group.
  • Johnny wilkins

    There are times when those fish will be up in the water column even in the top 5 feet. Other times when you need to get down to 10 foot, you could take a telescopic pole with you - 16 or 18 foot pole and fish a small float to get at those gills.
    If you fish a slip float it is pretty easy to set up and fish. One huge tip I can pass on to my slip floaters - clip a small snap swivel through the eye of your float.
    You can now put the line through the eye of that snap swivel. Use a bead above your knot for the stopper. Using the steel eye of the swivel helps your line slide through faster. Most importantly, when you are done fishing, you can unclip your float and keep it safe in your tackle box. Another aspect of the snap swivel is that if it gets windy, you can change to a larger float to cast further into the wind. I do say fish with the smallest float you can get away with- they are much more sensitive when you use less weight and the smaller float.
    Here is an example of the float setup:

    Attach a snap swivel to your float -it comes in handy often. The swivel is larger than it actually should be to illustrate how it attaches for you. You would want to use smaller swivels.. Just bigger than your line so the ring isn't so large it slips past your knot and the bead.

    Look for this float at a tackle dealer near you this Spring.
  • robsabloke

    Hi Everyone... I grew up in England and learned slip float fishing from an early aged. I've used the technique here in the USA with great success... albeit it with a few strange looks when I first got here in 1979.
    It can be a method that will produced fish when NOTHING else will. Look for to contributing to the group
    Rob
  • John Sheehan

    Perhaps we should discuss LOCATION ACCORDING TO WATER TEMP AND WIND DIRECTION!
    http://www.bigbluegill.com/photo/albums/march-2010

    http://www.bigbluegill.com/photo/albums/april-2010
  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    Haha, great post John. It was certainly applicable for me last weekend when I couldn't get my light jig to fall under the slip bobber because of the wind. Grrrrrr.
  • John Sheehan

    Who here knows the proper way to attach/use the top float ?I bought these two recently and used the bottom float with good success today. The Betts float thats slightly smaller works perhaps better but I like the fact the thill pear shaped can eliminate a bead .

  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    A couple slip bobber catches the past couple weekends.

  • John Sheehan

    I am starting to realize at this time of year on my hot spot from shore I should probably just go with a fixed float like the Betts balsa as the fish are close to surface in shallow water ...still experimenting though and perhaps with longer casts to deeper water on this same spot I'll find bigger fish.
  • John Sheehan

    NICE JOSH !!! How heavy were those jigs?What were they tipped with?
  • John Sheehan

    Is that a White Bass?Looks a lot like a White Perch but Thicker lines and heartier looking! Fine Rainbow!
  • John Sheehan

    BTW ,I'm very impressed with the Eagle Claw Species Specific Crappie #8 hook.It is a great hook for the 10"Crappie and up to 8&1/4 BlueGill I caught today . @ 30 cents a hook they are well worth it long enough shank to dig the hook out easily and light for the bite
  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    Thanks John. Each jig was a 1/32. The trout was taken with a waxie I was getting rid of from ice fishing season, haha. The other fish, which is actually a yellow bass (invasive here) was tipped with a red wiggler. Caught a bunch of 7-8" bluegill and tiny bass on this set up too from the same hole. No crappie though, which is what I was actually hoping for. :(
  • John Sheehan

    Josh-What size float is that ?Looks like an Eagle Claw .
  • John Sheehan

    Yeah hard to throw lightr than 32nd oz. You had a good day nevertheless Josh but you didnt tell me how deep ya caught them!Need to know!!
    Also I use an inexpensive thermometer for water temp readings .Do you have one . Its good info .I'm trying to compile info on temps and lure use this year and want to compare notes with buddies here.
  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    Oh, shoot, I'm not sure what size the float is. It's about 3" if that helps and I think it's a Thill. I'm at work right now and can check for sure when I get home if it's labeled on the bobber.
  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    I've never taken a temp actually. Might try that. Would be interesting to see the varying temps at different depths.

    I was jigging in 4-6' of water, but the bass, both yellow and largemouths, were taken very close to shore, much shallower than the bluegills were.
  • John Sheehan

    I didnt realize you were at work .I'll stop bugging you but I 'm hoping to workout and share details on slip floating so I'll stay tuned!
  • Josh Milczski (Omaha)

    If I'm at work I want to be bugged. ;D
  • John Sheehan

    A great slip/fixed floating blog by B.Waldman with good info on matching floats and weights:

    http://www.bigbluegill.com/profiles/blogs/float-fishing-for-panfish...
  • John Sheehan

    Nice little graphic 2lbgill!
  • Johnny wilkins

    Slip floaters - we need you. Doing a study on float setups and how you fish them: Bobber Revolution 2011 

    We need you. I will be giving out some great prizes and raffling off floats, tshirts, baits etc. 

     

    I hope many slip-floats can share their rigs and their Spring / early Summer fishing. I would like reps from all over the country to participate.

     

    John C. fished in the very same club I was in and the same ponds around me. John, they are tearing up Patriot's Park - Barth Pond. They might be poisoning all the fish / dredging it out. If they do- I want to be there with video and my camera to document what a colossal dumb idea they had.

     

  • John Sheehan

    Why is it that some floats have the under water end wider than the above water end? Comparing a Betts Balsa and a Thill Mini Stealth balsa float they are opposite in there visual painted ends.
  • David, aka, "McScruff"

    As to the question:

     

    Why is it that some floats have the under water end wider than the above water end? Comparing a Betts Balsa and a Thill Mini Stealth balsa float they are opposite....."

     

    I'm willing to bet there isn't a ton of thought behind the difference. It may be just a way to avoid patent infringment - and may have nothing to do with fishing.

     

    Those you show always remind me of decapitated wagglers. This makes them more a slippable bobber than a float in the traditional sense. You might call them a hybrid, too.

     


  • Johnny wilkins

    In this case, we are comparing a casting slip float to what was designed to be a beginners' pole float. I believe the slip float is meant to hold a small minnow up. If you need to keep a swimming bait like a minnow or leech up in the water column, then you might want a chubby end to prevent the bait from swimming your float under.

    The pole float however is supposed to just be used for grubs. I would say for both floats -you are right. The companies selling them have not put a lot of thought into them. They have taken some concepts from international floats and figured out how to produce them really cheaply. Then, they sell them. If we as a public buy them - they don't care.

    The Mini Stealth used to have a controller eye in it which was just below water level. This metal eye has been common in some form in floats for a couple hundred years. Sometimes you see it as a piece of wire around the entire float and sometimes a piece of rubber or silicone sleeve helps the angler to control the top of the float and keep it upright.

    All that Lindy knew was that the little metal eyes cost them a couple of cents to purchase and then a few cents to install by hand. These costs were not necessary since the angling public (( didn't even know what this eye was mean to do on the float )).

    Out it came because the inventor no longer worked with the company - there was no one to complain about the missing controller and the ability to hold the float back. No no cared that it would catch fewer fish. The company cared that it would make more money.

    The formula: $$$ - fish= profit . This formula is fine with most all companies. On the end of the fishing line is us.

    The reason many anglers purchase is to try and improve, try to catch. We try to enhance our chances and we spend even more trying to give us confidence when fishing. I guess it would be really bad if someone got some products to market that caught a lot of fish...

    hmmm...
  • David, aka, "McScruff"

    Johnny, do you have any pictures of floats with the "controller eye?"
  • Rob Hilton

    I grew up in England and learned float fishing before anything else... slip floats are an incredible way to catch Bluegills and on many occasions out fish any other method... especially when the bite is tough... Glad to be aboard...
  • John Sheehan

    16th oz Chartreuse Marabou jig/crawler piece slip floated just off bottom @ 3 and 1/2 ' took this big surprise . Sucker ,not sure what kind.

  • David, aka, "McScruff"

    That is a nice fish, as fish go.  I see these trash or "rough" fish as worthy opponents, much as the folks in other parts of the world do.  After all, carp were first imported into this country as a food source during U.S. Grant's term.

    There is this nagging thought in my brain that they are indeed edible - should you happen upon the correct method of preparation.

    In the meantime, that big old sucker had to be more fun than cleaning out the gutters. "Fish on!" brother.

  • David, aka, "McScruff"

    I also appreciate your succinct descriptions of your catching methods.

  • John Sheehan

    David,glad you like my sharing of fishing method .I honestty wish more folks would succinctly explain their catches.

      The gutters are still clogged but I had fun with this Sucker on 4# test and a Crappie rod !They fight great!

    The Cabelas Balsa float I used  is in the pic below on the right .

  • Johnny wilkins

    John - sucker is one of the most awesome fish to catch - nice haul.  Suckers are very fine feeders and are not easy to catch. I am with David - the only "rough" fish is the one that will not take your bait. A fish is something you try to catch. The shape, nor the length, nor the weight or color of the fish matters and each and every fish offers something for the angler. Show me the person that would rather fish all day for bass and catch nothing vs. catching ten fish of another species and I will show you someone who is jealous and not honest with themselves.

    Sucker = Awesome. I wish my lake near me was filled with white sucker, red tail or even wide-mouth sucker. That would be the best. 

  • Johnny wilkins

    by the way - this is the bobber that I referred to that used to have a controller eye on the side half-way up the red cone. 

    The name on the side of theta float is my teacher's name - Thill. These were designed as a "first wave" of consumer floats. But- before he could complete the next wave he sold off his name to the company [ the bought him out]. Next, the company started doing things to save $$ and the little metal eyes became extinct. These are beginners' floats - stay tuned.

  • John Sheehan

    Johnny-I lost the only two I had of these fine Thill mini wagglers with the controller eye  and cant find them in the stores I used to get them in anymore .Upsetting! Anyone know where I can find backstock on these . That white sucker sure was a fine catch on 4lb test!

  • Johnny wilkins

    You could make your own by getting some fine wire, loop it over a metal dowel for the eye and then insert the two ends into the balsa with a dab of silicone (make sure the eye is open with no silicone) - or you can use my floats with do have a controller eye.

    Eye care.  I discovered a section of lake by me that holds suckers and to be a better angler this Spring I am going to have a few sucker expeditions. I was so happy to see them trying to get up the 100' dam/inflow ramp last fall. Can't wait. They are delicate feeders and they have a lot of little bumps as they taste their favorite bait - worms. Ignoring the false bites with a fine float tip will allow you to see "the glide" when they are actually eating what they have tasted and the hook is home. They have several fights which include a medium-fast tugging straight down in multiple throbs, they also have the "pickerel run" a snaky burst and my favorite - the line wrap when they simply roll like crazy and get your line all wrapped up on them like a Christmas package.

    Is the water still where you fish for is there a slight current - I am guessing a slight current somewhere near there.

  • John Sheehan

    Absolutely a current was nearby and the run was like a Pickerels!Pompton lakes where I caught the sucker  is a dammed river system.

     What a cool idea to make my own controller eye.I may shave down a wine cork as well as try it on a balsa float. 

    I would be willing to buy and try your floats as well .Can you send me some info?

  • Dwayne Denison

    What is the type float, most of you use for slip bobber fishing. I am getting ready to make a trip to bass pro and dicks to spend some Christmas gift cards.

  • Leo Nguyen

    Bass Pro will have its own slip bobber for cheaper. Buy the smallest pencil slip bobber. Otherwise, the poace will carry Thill products.