Way deep and real muddy, how do I move on? - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T15:59:07Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/way-deep-and-real-muddy-how-do?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A91902&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI tell ya what guys, I sure w…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-04-10:2036984:Comment:1384152011-04-10T00:55:13.748ZKeith Owenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/KeithOwen
<p>I tell ya what guys, I sure would LIKE to be dealing with high water right now.</p>
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<p>Truth is, we havn't had any real measureable rainfall in my area since November. We had some good snow in January. Once it all melted the ground wasn't wet for even 24 hours.</p>
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<p>You would think with low water and no inflow the water would be "Gin Clear". NOPE, 30-40mph winds have kept everything white-capped and stirred up.</p>
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<p>I'm not complaining (well.. I am but not…</p>
<p>I tell ya what guys, I sure would LIKE to be dealing with high water right now.</p>
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<p>Truth is, we havn't had any real measureable rainfall in my area since November. We had some good snow in January. Once it all melted the ground wasn't wet for even 24 hours.</p>
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<p>You would think with low water and no inflow the water would be "Gin Clear". NOPE, 30-40mph winds have kept everything white-capped and stirred up.</p>
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<p>I'm not complaining (well.. I am but not meaning to dwell on it). The conditions have forced me to hunt for new places and stretch my skills. It's been kinda fun exploring and a new challenge to go to places that aren't a slam-dunk.</p>
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<p>Keith</p> High water levels with muddy,…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-04-08:2036984:Comment:1383172011-04-08T20:33:29.965Zbillhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/bill986
High water levels with muddy, murky water mean I go to a little black popper. Sling it out, pop the snot out of it once, let it sit for about a minute or so, the short strip it in. Sound seems to draw 'em into visual range, and the black shows well against the surface.
High water levels with muddy, murky water mean I go to a little black popper. Sling it out, pop the snot out of it once, let it sit for about a minute or so, the short strip it in. Sound seems to draw 'em into visual range, and the black shows well against the surface. WE'VE BEEN FISHING THE RIP-RA…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-04-08:2036984:Comment:1383072011-04-08T02:15:22.915ZKeith Ritterhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/KeithRitter
WE'VE BEEN FISHING THE RIP-RAP LEVEES OF THE SMALL LAKES AFTER HEAVY RAINS. FISH WITH WORMS ON THE BOTTOM JUST OFF THE ROCKS. THE GILLS AND CRACKERS SEEM TO FEED ON WHAT IS WASHED DOWN. THE FISH ARE'NT ON THE BED YET HERE THOUGH.
WE'VE BEEN FISHING THE RIP-RAP LEVEES OF THE SMALL LAKES AFTER HEAVY RAINS. FISH WITH WORMS ON THE BOTTOM JUST OFF THE ROCKS. THE GILLS AND CRACKERS SEEM TO FEED ON WHAT IS WASHED DOWN. THE FISH ARE'NT ON THE BED YET HERE THOUGH. High water has me chomping at…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-04-05:2036984:Comment:1377202011-04-05T21:47:21.383ZLord of the Fly , Rodshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LordoftheFlyRods
High water has me chomping at the bit , I've had to work on the pretty days , it's killiing me, but I'll get there, the fish are waiting for me.
High water has me chomping at the bit , I've had to work on the pretty days , it's killiing me, but I'll get there, the fish are waiting for me. Thought it might be about tim…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-04-05:2036984:Comment:1377192011-04-05T20:45:23.889ZKeith Owenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/KeithOwen
<p>Thought it might be about time to bring this post back.</p>
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<p>Anyone already in the rainy season? We haven't had any measureable rainfall since November or so but when we break a drought, we generally do so with a flood.</p>
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<p>So.. who is dealing with high and/or muddy water already this year? How are you doing so?</p>
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<p>Thought it might be about time to bring this post back.</p>
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<p>Anyone already in the rainy season? We haven't had any measureable rainfall since November or so but when we break a drought, we generally do so with a flood.</p>
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<p>So.. who is dealing with high and/or muddy water already this year? How are you doing so?</p>
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<p>Keith</p> Well... I guess I have found…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2010-07-19:2036984:Comment:925062010-07-19T06:43:30.257ZKeith Owenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/KeithOwen
Well... I guess I have found the best-all-time-greatest solution to high and/or muddy water! TIME!<br />
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No rain for two weeks now and hotter than a swimsuite model eating pancakes. Lakes are pretty much back to normal and water clarity is as good as it ever gets around here. Finding fish is pretty easy this time of year in Oklahoma. If there's shade, they will be there. Now, getting them to bite is another story.<br />
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Of course the "Golden Hours" still apply. Here they are the half-hour before and…
Well... I guess I have found the best-all-time-greatest solution to high and/or muddy water! TIME!<br />
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No rain for two weeks now and hotter than a swimsuite model eating pancakes. Lakes are pretty much back to normal and water clarity is as good as it ever gets around here. Finding fish is pretty easy this time of year in Oklahoma. If there's shade, they will be there. Now, getting them to bite is another story.<br />
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Of course the "Golden Hours" still apply. Here they are the half-hour before and after sunrise and the hour before full dark.<br />
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Right now the big bite is on for emerging damselflies. These wriggley little nymphs make a mad dash for the surface in crowds. They try to haul out on emergent plants to escape being eaten. Some make it, some don't and some are imitations with a hook hidden inside!<br />
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I find that a quick "line twist" retrieve works best. Fish just slam a damselfly nymph fly. I think it is because the fish know they might only get one chance at the speedy little buggers.<br />
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I appreciate everyone's input on how to deal with high and muddy water. Maybe now I need to start a post about dealing with really hot weather? Greg-
That is a great photo!…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2010-07-16:2036984:Comment:921572010-07-16T01:09:16.628ZKeith Owenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/KeithOwen
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That is a great photo! A dang nice fish too. You bet I recognize that spot, I have had my sonar over that area and there is a cool hump on the bottom right there. I'm sure you've seen it when the plants get tall. They come almost to the surface around there somewhere.<br />
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Lisa and I have trolled that spot with our flyrod as well and picked up some pretty big Crappie.<br />
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We have gone nearly 6 days with no rain and the daytime temps are getting near 99 every day. Summer patterns should get back…
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That is a great photo! A dang nice fish too. You bet I recognize that spot, I have had my sonar over that area and there is a cool hump on the bottom right there. I'm sure you've seen it when the plants get tall. They come almost to the surface around there somewhere.<br />
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Lisa and I have trolled that spot with our flyrod as well and picked up some pretty big Crappie.<br />
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We have gone nearly 6 days with no rain and the daytime temps are getting near 99 every day. Summer patterns should get back to normal pretty quick. Keith, I think you will rcog…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2010-07-15:2036984:Comment:920792010-07-15T13:47:10.481ZGreg McWilliamshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/GregMcWilliams
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Keith, I think you will rcognize this spot, bouy is on the west side. Was using eggsucking-leach on sinking line as you can see I was quite a ways out from the bouy. I like big black flies this was in the evening. I agree with both Bruce and LotF,R. Road trip for sure, but if you can't trip go low and slow.<br />
After sunset along rocky dams poppers are a good…
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Keith, I think you will rcognize this spot, bouy is on the west side. Was using eggsucking-leach on sinking line as you can see I was quite a ways out from the bouy. I like big black flies this was in the evening. I agree with both Bruce and LotF,R. Road trip for sure, but if you can't trip go low and slow.<br />
After sunset along rocky dams poppers are a good ticket!!!!!!!!!!!! Bruce and LotF,R- Amazing how…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2010-07-14:2036984:Comment:919022010-07-14T04:20:29.840ZKeith Owenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/KeithOwen
Bruce and LotF,R- Amazing how two completely different answers can both be so spot-on!<br />
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Fishing low-and-slow as you recomended Bruce, has accounted for what few good fish I have caught over the last week or so. All of the rain dropped water temps by 6-8 degrees. We had a 98 degree (with little or no wind) day today so I imagine the surface temp is back in the mid- to high 80s. I'm sure the fish are still on nests, it's just a little harder to find them with no visability.<br />
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Ah... A road trip. To…
Bruce and LotF,R- Amazing how two completely different answers can both be so spot-on!<br />
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Fishing low-and-slow as you recomended Bruce, has accounted for what few good fish I have caught over the last week or so. All of the rain dropped water temps by 6-8 degrees. We had a 98 degree (with little or no wind) day today so I imagine the surface temp is back in the mid- to high 80s. I'm sure the fish are still on nests, it's just a little harder to find them with no visability.<br />
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Ah... A road trip. To run the open road, wind in my hair, loose monofilament snapping like a bullwhip as it streams from the bed of the truck. I really don't have far to go, either east or west, to find clearer water. Oklahoma is blessed with a lot of water. Maybe we are actually blessed with a lot of dams and the water is a result. Either way, we have hundreds of small city lakes, most of them barring any type of gas motor, that anglers have access to. The large resevoirs are great but for relativly untapped Sunfish resources it's hard to beat the twelve lakes, between 75 and 125 acres in size that are less than an hours drive. A few bass fisherman hit these spots, but other than kids with worms and bobbers, the Bluegills, Red-ear, Green sunfish and Long-ears go unharassed.<br />
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What particular lures do some of you use in muddy water? Keith, I feel your pain, afte…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2010-07-14:2036984:Comment:918972010-07-14T03:20:47.022ZLord of the Fly , Rodshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LordoftheFlyRods
Keith, I feel your pain, after years living in Oklahoma and experiencing periods of high water and poor water visibality the only way that I found to guarentee a sucessful fishing adventure under these conditions is "ROAD TRIP" , head south to Texoma or east to Grand Lake,Tenkiller, or Gibson Lake. BrokenBow has some good areas or take a trip to North Arkansas or Southwest Missouri , Find better water untill the water in Oklahoma clears up and returns to normal levels. good luck
Keith, I feel your pain, after years living in Oklahoma and experiencing periods of high water and poor water visibality the only way that I found to guarentee a sucessful fishing adventure under these conditions is "ROAD TRIP" , head south to Texoma or east to Grand Lake,Tenkiller, or Gibson Lake. BrokenBow has some good areas or take a trip to North Arkansas or Southwest Missouri , Find better water untill the water in Oklahoma clears up and returns to normal levels. good luck