Panfish Tube Breakthrough - Advice Needed - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T07:22:26Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/panfish-tube-breakthrough?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think so too, especially if…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-08-03:2036984:Comment:1901082011-08-03T12:11:46.470ZJChttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JC
<p>I think so too, especially if a smaller skirt was used.</p>
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<p>The attraction seems to be in the tentacles. Without weight, as the body sinks very slowly, the tentacles spread out and look very "alive".</p>
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<p>As others mentioned, foam can be inserted if a floating or totally neutral version was needed.</p>
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<p>I used white for clarity in the photo, but brown to green patterns seem to look much more realistic in the water.</p>
<p>I think so too, especially if a smaller skirt was used.</p>
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<p>The attraction seems to be in the tentacles. Without weight, as the body sinks very slowly, the tentacles spread out and look very "alive".</p>
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<p>As others mentioned, foam can be inserted if a floating or totally neutral version was needed.</p>
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<p>I used white for clarity in the photo, but brown to green patterns seem to look much more realistic in the water.</p> This setup may be light enoug…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-08-03:2036984:Comment:1898132011-08-03T11:38:05.194ZJ. B. Hillardhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JBHillard738
This setup may be light enough to try with a fly rod. Also, there are tiny "indicator" type bobbers that are used by fly guys. Worth a try...........
This setup may be light enough to try with a fly rod. Also, there are tiny "indicator" type bobbers that are used by fly guys. Worth a try........... I thought I would update the…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-08-01:2036984:Comment:1891972011-08-01T13:29:12.290ZJChttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JC
<p>I thought I would update the members about this rig. My wife I returned to the same fishing spot recently, armed with slightly modified weedless tube rigs fished on 6 lb test.</p>
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<p>We used 2" tubes in a couple colors, rigged on a couple different styles of circle hooks. I did not get a chance to try badgerloader's suggestion of pinning the tube, which might have made a big difference.</p>
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<p>Without the pin, fish often pulled the skirt down and I had to re-position it on…</p>
<p>I thought I would update the members about this rig. My wife I returned to the same fishing spot recently, armed with slightly modified weedless tube rigs fished on 6 lb test.</p>
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<p>We used 2" tubes in a couple colors, rigged on a couple different styles of circle hooks. I did not get a chance to try badgerloader's suggestion of pinning the tube, which might have made a big difference.</p>
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<p>Without the pin, fish often pulled the skirt down and I had to re-position it on the hook several times.</p>
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<p>It helped to bend the shank of the circle hook near the top, to hold the upper part of the tube. Also, I removed offset from the hooks.</p>
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<p>At first, we added a small section of nightcrawler on the hook before tucking the barb up into the skirt. Later we used the lure without bait and it worked almost as well.</p>
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<p>The rig does very well in heavy cover and we seldom got snagged on vegetation. Casting distance is limited, but this was not really a problem.</p>
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<p>We were fishing from kayaks and were able to SLOWLY creep up to openings in the weeds and pitch the rig into the area. Often, several large bluegill or largemouth bass would converge and slam the lure. The water was clear so we could usually see the strike.</p>
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<p>The rig seems to need very little action when casted into an area where fish were present. It also seems to do well in open areas. At the end of the trip, I was able to fish a deep hole and got bit on almost every cast, simply by letting it sink and paying attention to the line.</p>
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<p>The circle hook being shielded by the skirt made hookup ratios a little lower than normal, but the number of bites we had more than made up for an inconvenience. The most effective technique was to apply pressure slowly when fish grabbed the rig.</p>
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<p>A kahle hook will also work for anglers that do not like using circle hooks. The last image shows the skirt pinned with a toothpick.</p>
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<p>I would consider trying a Mustad 3366 A or a 3366 G large ringed-eye Sproat hook (Netcraft has them). The large eye would allow you to "pin" the tube through the hook eye with a toothpick. If you need a little more mass for casting try inserting a split shot into the tube. Follow with a small piece of EPS foam and pin that with another toothpick. The use of a small piece of foam should counteract the shot weight and allow your offering to sink slowly.</p>
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<p>I would consider trying a Mustad 3366 A or a 3366 G large ringed-eye Sproat hook (Netcraft has them). The large eye would allow you to "pin" the tube through the hook eye with a toothpick. If you need a little more mass for casting try inserting a split shot into the tube. Follow with a small piece of EPS foam and pin that with another toothpick. The use of a small piece of foam should counteract the shot weight and allow your offering to sink slowly.</p>
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<p> </p> No doubt lighter line would h…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-07-20:2036984:Comment:1849392011-07-20T16:53:20.520ZJChttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JC
<p>No doubt lighter line would help some. I currently fish with 6 pound line due to the harsh environments that I fish.</p>
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<p>I will give this a few days and see what ideas are presented. One idea I have considered is to use monel wire and some type of filler to add a little mass to the rig, but still make it almost neutral in the water.</p>
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<p>I friend got me in the habit of keeping small marshmallows in my tackle box. Not only are they bright white, but they add a little…</p>
<p>No doubt lighter line would help some. I currently fish with 6 pound line due to the harsh environments that I fish.</p>
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<p>I will give this a few days and see what ideas are presented. One idea I have considered is to use monel wire and some type of filler to add a little mass to the rig, but still make it almost neutral in the water.</p>
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<p>I friend got me in the habit of keeping small marshmallows in my tackle box. Not only are they bright white, but they add a little flotation to a bait or lure when needed. There is probably a more suitable material that would be just slightly heavier than water and small enough to fit inside a tube body.</p>
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<p>These grass beds seem to be impossible to fish for panfish using conventional lures and even bait under a bobber would be pushing it.</p> Have done the Texas rig on th…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-07-20:2036984:Comment:1853822011-07-20T15:15:43.197ZCobrahttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/Cobra
Have done the Texas rig on the small tubes using flytying Scud hooks. Short length, reasonably wide gap but without weight it's more of a short range target approach. Not one of my favorite techniques but at times one needs to do what one needs to do. 2# florou and a 7' Eagle Claw Featherlite rod does OK
Have done the Texas rig on the small tubes using flytying Scud hooks. Short length, reasonably wide gap but without weight it's more of a short range target approach. Not one of my favorite techniques but at times one needs to do what one needs to do. 2# florou and a 7' Eagle Claw Featherlite rod does OK