Old Reels - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-28T15:51:49Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/old-reels?groupUrl=fiberglassflyrodgroup&commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A657080&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI got into this for awhile co…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6570802016-03-02T18:16:15.692ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
I got into this for awhile collecting and learning about these old reels. I gave it up after awhilen as kinda pointless.<br />
But to was fun - sounds like I was off a few years in my estimates.
I got into this for awhile collecting and learning about these old reels. I gave it up after awhilen as kinda pointless.<br />
But to was fun - sounds like I was off a few years in my estimates. FOUND THIS OUT " Beginning in…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6573342016-03-02T18:11:47.852ZJohn Sheehanhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnSheehan
<p>FOUND THIS OUT " Beginning in 1910, the model number on the bottom of the reel foot indicated the year the reel was made. This year marking continued up until 1931."</p>
<p>FOUND THIS OUT " Beginning in 1910, the model number on the bottom of the reel foot indicated the year the reel was made. This year marking continued up until 1931."</p> I have to look into the seria…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6572382016-03-02T17:54:42.717ZJohn Sheehanhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnSheehan
<p>I have to look into the serial # dating yet or model style years. The Meissel Bach has no serial# that I can spot .Maybe its inside the reel like some watches? The Meisselbach has this etched into the bottom of the reel between the flanges of the reel seat." A.F. Meisselbach and Bro. Newark N.J. 80 Yard". A book I have says the Brothers sold their Co. in 1917. Under the reel seat of the Shakespeare 'Universal' it says 1918 Model .Not sure how long they made the model so I need to find that…</p>
<p>I have to look into the serial # dating yet or model style years. The Meissel Bach has no serial# that I can spot .Maybe its inside the reel like some watches? The Meisselbach has this etched into the bottom of the reel between the flanges of the reel seat." A.F. Meisselbach and Bro. Newark N.J. 80 Yard". A book I have says the Brothers sold their Co. in 1917. Under the reel seat of the Shakespeare 'Universal' it says 1918 Model .Not sure how long they made the model so I need to find that out . On the side plate is a # which may be the serial # (23038) . The Pflueger also has no serial # I can see ,just a trademark number ,1943 , and have to find out how long the 'Trump' model was manufactured .That's where I am presently with this curiosity .Thanks for your input .</p>
<p></p> And have you learned what the…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6573222016-03-02T16:20:42.484ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
And have you learned what the serial number indicates for a date?<br></br>
Sometimes reels designs would stay in the catalog for decades with only cosmetic changes. Each change marks a collectible point, but the actual reel might be pretty generic. Thats why I gave such a wide span of manufacture.<br></br>
As an aside, the companies often made the same reel under contract with another name, as a "house brand" model.<br />
So a Meisselbach reel might have had Pulchard, or Marbles, stamped on it<br></br>
It's all…
And have you learned what the serial number indicates for a date?<br/>
Sometimes reels designs would stay in the catalog for decades with only cosmetic changes. Each change marks a collectible point, but the actual reel might be pretty generic. Thats why I gave such a wide span of manufacture.<br/>
As an aside, the companies often made the same reel under contract with another name, as a "house brand" model.<br />
So a Meisselbach reel might have had Pulchard, or Marbles, stamped on it<br/>
It's all quite fascinating really. Unfortunately, those dates ar…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6573192016-03-02T15:28:48.768ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
Unfortunately, those dates are usually patent dates and can be very far from DOM.<br></br>
The actual build date is normally coded as part of the serial #<br></br>
ITS kinda tricky how they do that....<br></br>
Regardless, the Meisselbach is likeliest the interesting oddity, although the condition is the issue. They were made 1907-1919 by the droves, and were the most popular reel for 15 years or so . Sadly, it's probably not rare by that virtue. Here's some info:…<br></br>
Unfortunately, those dates are usually patent dates and can be very far from DOM.<br/>
The actual build date is normally coded as part of the serial #<br/>
ITS kinda tricky how they do that....<br/>
Regardless, the Meisselbach is likeliest the interesting oddity, although the condition is the issue. They were made 1907-1919 by the droves, and were the most popular reel for 15 years or so . Sadly, it's probably not rare by that virtue. Here's some info:<br/>
<a href="http://www.oldreels.com/triparts.htm" target="_blank">http://www.oldreels.com/triparts.htm</a> Dave the dates are all stampe…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6573142016-03-02T14:52:16.094ZJohn Sheehanhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnSheehan
<p>Dave the dates are all stamped on the reels the Tripart is 1907, The Shakespeare is 1918 model and the Pflueger is 1943.I should have looked at them closely before starting this post .</p>
<p>Dave the dates are all stamped on the reels the Tripart is 1907, The Shakespeare is 1918 model and the Pflueger is 1943.I should have looked at them closely before starting this post .</p> I think the Tri-Part is (190…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6570542016-03-02T14:22:36.042ZJohn Sheehanhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnSheehan
<p>I think the Tri-Part is (1907)and I 'd be surprised if any of these were as late as 50's or 60's but I'm just learning about them . <a href="http://luresnreels.com/meisselbach.html">http://luresnreels.com/meisselbach.html</a></p>
<p>The Tri-Part sideplate has this etching: Patents Nov 15,'04, Dec,27,'04 , June 20,05, March5 ,07 .</p>
<p>I think the Tri-Part is (1907)and I 'd be surprised if any of these were as late as 50's or 60's but I'm just learning about them . <a href="http://luresnreels.com/meisselbach.html">http://luresnreels.com/meisselbach.html</a></p>
<p>The Tri-Part sideplate has this etching: Patents Nov 15,'04, Dec,27,'04 , June 20,05, March5 ,07 .</p> Too bad on the spool bushing;…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-02:2036984:Comment:6572002016-03-02T01:36:42.168ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
Too bad on the spool bushing; they are a challenge to find precise replacements for.<br />
Google vintage reel forums and you'll get answers.<br />
I'd guess they are from the 30s-60s, pretty much the heyday of this type of "boys reel."
Too bad on the spool bushing; they are a challenge to find precise replacements for.<br />
Google vintage reel forums and you'll get answers.<br />
I'd guess they are from the 30s-60s, pretty much the heyday of this type of "boys reel." They are not better condition…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-01:2036984:Comment:6571952016-03-01T20:55:27.633ZJohn Sheehanhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JohnSheehan
<p>They are not better condition reels for sure Dave and wasn't expecting them to be much value .The Pflueger is missing the little cover for the center pin on the opposite side as the handle. The other two looks like they have nothing missing .I am curious how old the reels are and only one (the Pflueger) has a level wind and worm gear which is probably the most recent of the three .I am thinking the meissalback 90 yard model is the oldest of the three .Gonna have to pursue patent # and other…</p>
<p>They are not better condition reels for sure Dave and wasn't expecting them to be much value .The Pflueger is missing the little cover for the center pin on the opposite side as the handle. The other two looks like they have nothing missing .I am curious how old the reels are and only one (the Pflueger) has a level wind and worm gear which is probably the most recent of the three .I am thinking the meissalback 90 yard model is the oldest of the three .Gonna have to pursue patent # and other printed wording on the reels to find out more .</p> All are well used by the look…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2016-03-01:2036984:Comment:6569972016-03-01T01:02:56.236ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
All are well used by the look - that's bad on value<br />
The Meisselbach may be something, the other two bread and butter<br />
There's a few good forums you can google
All are well used by the look - that's bad on value<br />
The Meisselbach may be something, the other two bread and butter<br />
There's a few good forums you can google