Live Bait vs. Gulp Shoot-Out 2012 - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T14:51:12Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/live-bait-vs-gulp-shoot-out-2012?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A233532&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLoved the trailertag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-06:2036984:Comment:2563242012-04-06T02:40:49.938ZJoe Angeluccihttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JoeAngelucci
<p>Loved the trailer</p>
<p>Loved the trailer</p> This was a good analogy - "GU…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-05:2036984:Comment:2560332012-04-05T01:42:32.733ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>This was a good analogy - "GULP ... angler's Veggie burger compared to Ground Sirloin Cooked Perfectly with all the fixings."</p>
<p>And it does leave a really smelly residue behind. My wife can always tell when Ive used it.</p>
<p>And DO NOT allow it to seep into the corners of your tackle box... dont ask me how I know this!</p>
<p>This was a good analogy - "GULP ... angler's Veggie burger compared to Ground Sirloin Cooked Perfectly with all the fixings."</p>
<p>And it does leave a really smelly residue behind. My wife can always tell when Ive used it.</p>
<p>And DO NOT allow it to seep into the corners of your tackle box... dont ask me how I know this!</p> Great observations LEO - magg…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2558322012-04-04T17:13:43.621ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>Great observations LEO - maggots are VERY TOUGH and can withstand a LOT with a little care - as you say -take the time which might be as short as :15 min. to pack them in a small cooler - and your bait will last you many trips out. Don't take care to pack it and keep it cold and, well, you get dead bait. I thought the killer was that some 800 pieces for $24 as compared to 2,500 - 3,000 pieces of live bait for that same $24 - I thought this was also something to look at. Not only did the GULP…</p>
<p>Great observations LEO - maggots are VERY TOUGH and can withstand a LOT with a little care - as you say -take the time which might be as short as :15 min. to pack them in a small cooler - and your bait will last you many trips out. Don't take care to pack it and keep it cold and, well, you get dead bait. I thought the killer was that some 800 pieces for $24 as compared to 2,500 - 3,000 pieces of live bait for that same $24 - I thought this was also something to look at. Not only did the GULP catch 1/3* of the fish - but it also cost 3x what live bait did. That is 9x less effective in my book.</p> I think I will run another te…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2558302012-04-04T16:55:28.238ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>I think I will run another test with the remaining bait. There are TWO faults with the outcome. I think the GULP numbers were inflated and should have been lower on the day.</p>
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<p>1. The live bait was in the area of the GULP and I believe it enhanced the GULP numbers in session two - and possibly the other sessions</p>
<p>2. The action from the fish digging the live bait and loose live bait in the water, attracted more fish to the area that GULP would have failed to…</p>
<p>I think I will run another test with the remaining bait. There are TWO faults with the outcome. I think the GULP numbers were inflated and should have been lower on the day.</p>
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<p>1. The live bait was in the area of the GULP and I believe it enhanced the GULP numbers in session two - and possibly the other sessions</p>
<p>2. The action from the fish digging the live bait and loose live bait in the water, attracted more fish to the area that GULP would have failed to attract</p>
<p>3. The scent and particles of the live spike was carried down current 6' away to the GULP area and also attracted more fish.</p>
<p>I will need another 3 x :30 sessions where the live bait is distanced from the GULP area - I believe the bait to be far inferior - even more so than this test result indicates.</p>
<p>If the fishing were tough, I think GULP would NOT impact or assist in your fishing results.</p>
<p>GULP alone is only a "Last Resort" or a angler's Veggie burger compared to Ground Sirloin Cooked Perfectly with all the fixings. To its claim of Outfishing ALL Other Bait - mission accomplished it has been found out - and it does NOT and never will.</p>
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<p>If it helps your confidence in your rig - you might want to check that - there are better cuts of meat available to you as an angler. I can not make these claims without the data and real testing. I just don't know how much of my catching I want to give up to do more tests.</p> One additional thing I learne…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2556782012-04-04T16:48:43.405ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>One additional thing I learned is that this bait is creepy-slimy and leaves a gooey residue behind - it is nasty to handle. Much messier than a clean pint of maggots that is for certain. Good enough for kids to use if they don't wish to bait up I guess- but the ole worm can NOT be beaten - </p>
<p>One additional thing I learned is that this bait is creepy-slimy and leaves a gooey residue behind - it is nasty to handle. Much messier than a clean pint of maggots that is for certain. Good enough for kids to use if they don't wish to bait up I guess- but the ole worm can NOT be beaten - </p> Well - i think a large object…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2559052012-04-04T16:47:18.985ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>Well - i think a large object might help them locate it but our insectivore friends like to eyeball their food- altering the natural silhouette (shape) size, color, taste of your naturals - might not help you out - plus it is EXPENSIVE...</p>
<p>Well - i think a large object might help them locate it but our insectivore friends like to eyeball their food- altering the natural silhouette (shape) size, color, taste of your naturals - might not help you out - plus it is EXPENSIVE...</p> Interesting outcome Johnny ma…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2557342012-04-04T15:53:09.139Zdick tabberthttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/dicktabbert
<p>Interesting outcome Johnny makes you wonder how they can say it out fishes live bait. I do have a few jars around the house for the girls so they can go out back and fish, funny how when they get older the worms become nasty.</p>
<p>Interesting outcome Johnny makes you wonder how they can say it out fishes live bait. I do have a few jars around the house for the girls so they can go out back and fish, funny how when they get older the worms become nasty.</p> Interesting to me that Gulp d…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2558252012-04-04T15:29:08.883ZJeffrey D. Abneyhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JeffreyDavidAbney
<p>Interesting to me that Gulp did as well as it did....good research Johnny...thanks for sharing.......I do have Gulp baits available but I never fish them alone because of the results that I have experienced and this research amplifies that fact for me......The example I give most often is presentation, like the Chartreuse minnow combined with a live cricket in tanic water.....I truly believe this helps the fish locate my bait but the live bait is what creates the bite more times than…</p>
<p>Interesting to me that Gulp did as well as it did....good research Johnny...thanks for sharing.......I do have Gulp baits available but I never fish them alone because of the results that I have experienced and this research amplifies that fact for me......The example I give most often is presentation, like the Chartreuse minnow combined with a live cricket in tanic water.....I truly believe this helps the fish locate my bait but the live bait is what creates the bite more times than not......I immediately add a new cricket when it is gone without question.....</p> Very intense testing and resu…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2557332012-04-04T14:57:08.528ZLeo Nguyenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Very intense testing and results Johnny. Excellent work! Live baits definitely have their overall advantage, but all live baits do perish. GULP may be an accessible preserved materials, but nothing beat nature's own fresh materials which is a renewable resource if we want to maintain the constant supply. Just take an hour or two out of our busy schedule to take care of them all. Once again, excellent data. This should be posted in the Field Research group as well.</p>
<p>Very intense testing and results Johnny. Excellent work! Live baits definitely have their overall advantage, but all live baits do perish. GULP may be an accessible preserved materials, but nothing beat nature's own fresh materials which is a renewable resource if we want to maintain the constant supply. Just take an hour or two out of our busy schedule to take care of them all. Once again, excellent data. This should be posted in the Field Research group as well.</p> I have to agree that Gulp doe…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-04-04:2036984:Comment:2556642012-04-04T10:16:30.058ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>I have to agree that Gulp does work, and it has its place. But it is not the end all bait, nor does it meet the claims made for it when compared to natural baits. I've tried it in several different forms in several different ways and live bait inevitably does better in side-by-side use.</p>
<p>If you have magic chum that attracts fish like a magnet and gets them feeding madly, the a Gulp bait might be ideal. Less fuss and mess.</p>
<p>It also stores like no other live bait.</p>
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<p>I have to agree that Gulp does work, and it has its place. But it is not the end all bait, nor does it meet the claims made for it when compared to natural baits. I've tried it in several different forms in several different ways and live bait inevitably does better in side-by-side use.</p>
<p>If you have magic chum that attracts fish like a magnet and gets them feeding madly, the a Gulp bait might be ideal. Less fuss and mess.</p>
<p>It also stores like no other live bait.</p>
<p>For the most part, though, it is not a reliable substitute for natural baits. I think your results are spot on, Johnny.</p>