How picky are Bluegill? - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-28T08:24:45Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/how-picky-are-bluegill?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A278059&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA "bulky" body slows the sink…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-05-29:2036984:Comment:3902282013-05-29T16:39:06.033ZBadgerloaderhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/Badgerloader
<p>A "bulky" body slows the sink-rate. Your foam body creation is splendid! Another method to slow the sink-rate is to use hair or fur jigs to produce a "bulky" body. I use tiny jigs dressed with duck and / or hackle fibers if a slow sink-rate is not needed. If a slow sink-rate is needed I use kip (calf) tail - available in many colors - or hair / fur from other critters (squirrel, rabbit, mink etc.).</p>
<p>A "bulky" body slows the sink-rate. Your foam body creation is splendid! Another method to slow the sink-rate is to use hair or fur jigs to produce a "bulky" body. I use tiny jigs dressed with duck and / or hackle fibers if a slow sink-rate is not needed. If a slow sink-rate is needed I use kip (calf) tail - available in many colors - or hair / fur from other critters (squirrel, rabbit, mink etc.).</p> I'd have to agree with Mr. Ch…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-05-29:2036984:Comment:3899772013-05-29T10:03:53.016ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
I'd have to agree with Mr. Chell about unpressured fish... that war a good catch.<br />
At the same time you're not far off. If you look at there preferred foods of bluegill, the idea of speed becomes an issue. I've watched them rush up to a bait, only to hold position as they examine it. Their natural forage is not "high speed" and they are not pursuit predators by nature. I think of them more as grazers, that will occasionally strike a fast moving bait out of reflex. In that case, I believe it is…
I'd have to agree with Mr. Chell about unpressured fish... that war a good catch.<br />
At the same time you're not far off. If you look at there preferred foods of bluegill, the idea of speed becomes an issue. I've watched them rush up to a bait, only to hold position as they examine it. Their natural forage is not "high speed" and they are not pursuit predators by nature. I think of them more as grazers, that will occasionally strike a fast moving bait out of reflex. In that case, I believe it is the lures ACTION that does the trick.<br />
But you are on the right idea....slowed vertical presentation is crucial. Perhaps marabou tails would help, a la the traditional "Fuzz E Grub" I had to bring this thread ba…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2013-05-29:2036984:Comment:3900362013-05-29T02:42:05.202ZTony Livingstonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>I had to bring this thread back up after conversing with Jeffrey on the merits of targeting un-pressured fish.........</p>
<p>I had to bring this thread back up after conversing with Jeffrey on the merits of targeting un-pressured fish.........</p> I completely agree Mike... un…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-08-26:2036984:Comment:3032112012-08-26T20:19:33.948ZTony Livingstonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>I completely agree Mike... unpressured fish are usually more easily caught. I made the decision to fish that particular lake based on the commonly held belief that fish on a feeding program are always easy to catch, and all of our other ponds are fed.</p>
<p>I didn't want anyone to think the reason I caught fish on that jig was due solely to the fish being conditioned to hit whatever landed in the water.</p>
<p>I completely agree Mike... unpressured fish are usually more easily caught. I made the decision to fish that particular lake based on the commonly held belief that fish on a feeding program are always easy to catch, and all of our other ponds are fed.</p>
<p>I didn't want anyone to think the reason I caught fish on that jig was due solely to the fish being conditioned to hit whatever landed in the water.</p> Colors and what not can make…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-08-17:2036984:Comment:3007412012-08-17T02:52:37.979ZJoshua Caleb Parsonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/JoshuaCalebParson
<p>Colors and what not can make a difference, but I think most fisherman don't know how to use them correctly. As far as realism, the lure does not have to be realistic at all. However, sometimes it can help to be realistic, and I think that's where flyfishing comes into play. I am not a fly fisherman, but I've seen firsthand how incredibly deadly it is on panfish. I think they often see insects hit the water and then they gulp them down. I don't think panfish are smart enough to say…</p>
<p>Colors and what not can make a difference, but I think most fisherman don't know how to use them correctly. As far as realism, the lure does not have to be realistic at all. However, sometimes it can help to be realistic, and I think that's where flyfishing comes into play. I am not a fly fisherman, but I've seen firsthand how incredibly deadly it is on panfish. I think they often see insects hit the water and then they gulp them down. I don't think panfish are smart enough to say 'well, that doesn't look like the flies i normally eat' I think they just go, "omg, it's food!!!!". I don't think realism plays too much of a factor. I think the presentation is more important than the realism of the lure. </p> The bait glue dose work, I ju…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-06-26:2036984:Comment:2838472012-06-26T18:59:15.590ZRay J. Hallhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/RayJHall
<p>The bait glue dose work, I just got some and have use 2 times with a drop shot rig,</p>
<p>I,ve used with small plastic's on a #4 hook, with the heat we've had here in Alabama</p>
<p>the brim are staying deep, the drop shot rig works great on 4lb test,this rig is a killer with crikets or smaller plastics for big gills,that stay in deeper water. </p>
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<p>The bait glue dose work, I just got some and have use 2 times with a drop shot rig,</p>
<p>I,ve used with small plastic's on a #4 hook, with the heat we've had here in Alabama</p>
<p>the brim are staying deep, the drop shot rig works great on 4lb test,this rig is a killer with crikets or smaller plastics for big gills,that stay in deeper water. </p>
<p> </p> Good idea David... I hadn't c…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-06-23:2036984:Comment:2823962012-06-23T12:08:56.199ZTony Livingstonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>Good idea David... I hadn't considered that angle, and will look into it. Thanks for the tip!</p>
<p>Good idea David... I hadn't considered that angle, and will look into it. Thanks for the tip!</p> Is their any way you could s…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-06-23:2036984:Comment:2821612012-06-23T09:13:34.902ZDavid Dillmanhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/DavidDillman
<p> Is their any way you could smash down the jig flat. Charlie Brewer did this to slow down his descent on his jig heads.</p>
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<p> Is their any way you could smash down the jig flat. Charlie Brewer did this to slow down his descent on his jig heads.</p>
<p>Dilly</p> I believe the days of pursuin…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-06-14:2036984:Comment:2791892012-06-14T01:28:43.053ZTony Livingstonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>I believe the days of pursuing answers through advanced academia are probably behind me Leo. Nowadays, it's just me, the fish, a glass of sweet tea, and some casual observation.</p>
<p>Oh well, "C'est la vie" my friend...........</p>
<p>I believe the days of pursuing answers through advanced academia are probably behind me Leo. Nowadays, it's just me, the fish, a glass of sweet tea, and some casual observation.</p>
<p>Oh well, "C'est la vie" my friend...........</p> Intriguing deliveries. Rememb…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2012-06-13:2036984:Comment:2786752012-06-13T15:34:48.969ZLeo Nguyenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Intriguing deliveries. Remember, all species attempt to perform close range inspection on stationary prey, which include cues from sight, sound, and taste, and touch. Oil and the breakdown of the meal create the taste. Sight could be the subtle breakage of the meal due to water saturation, as well as the shadow cast by the pellet and oil layer. Since sound is avoidable, it could focus on touch via the lateral lines along the body, which is displacement of water as the pellet…</p>
<p>Intriguing deliveries. Remember, all species attempt to perform close range inspection on stationary prey, which include cues from sight, sound, and taste, and touch. Oil and the breakdown of the meal create the taste. Sight could be the subtle breakage of the meal due to water saturation, as well as the shadow cast by the pellet and oil layer. Since sound is avoidable, it could focus on touch via the lateral lines along the body, which is displacement of water as the pellet expands.</p>
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<p>We can't expel the BG the ability to learn and adapt. This is why they've been around for so long. However, what is learned became instinctive. This is the case of the chicken or the egg scenario. Truly intriguing to discover how much of this is learned vs instinctive. You can get your PhD on this Tony ;-)</p>