Fly Fishing (Setting the Hook) - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T08:05:58Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/fly-fishing-setting-the-hook?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A25401&feed=yes&xn_auth=nogillbum here,
I've been fish…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-04-07:2036984:Comment:316532009-04-07T18:20:35.356Zgillbumhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/gillbum
gillbum here,<br />
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I've been fishing for gills for almost 70 years. I also do a lot of trout fishing too. One thing I've noticed about gills, unlike trout, is that often, when live bait fishing, they are in what I call a "hit and spit" mood. It's like they want to taste or feel the texture of what it is they are taking in their mouth before they take it for good. They come up to it, hit and spit it and then take it for good if it seems right to them. My son in law has a farm pond and I've spent…
gillbum here,<br />
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I've been fishing for gills for almost 70 years. I also do a lot of trout fishing too. One thing I've noticed about gills, unlike trout, is that often, when live bait fishing, they are in what I call a "hit and spit" mood. It's like they want to taste or feel the texture of what it is they are taking in their mouth before they take it for good. They come up to it, hit and spit it and then take it for good if it seems right to them. My son in law has a farm pond and I've spent hours just watching gills and tossing them a variety of things from Japanese beetles to grasspoppers, little pieces of a stick, or buds from a small plant, small piece of worm, etc. It is amazing how fast they can get rid of something that they don't want. It's one of the reasons why I think so many folks miss strikes. The bobber will bounce slightly a couple times and then go down for good. Striking at the first movement of the bobber is when they have spit the bait out. Wait until they take it for good, the bobber goes completely under and starts to move away. You'll connect a lot more. Of course this applies to live bait fishing.<br />
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With artificials I like to fish dry flies because I like surface fishing and a regular trout fly has more of the soft feel of a real insect than a hard popper. I've always done better with flies than with poppers or hard lures. They seem to hold on to a fly that extra half second longer. It's also a lot easier to let the little ones go when you hook them in the mouth consistently rather than have them gut hooked.<br />
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gb I would miss a lot of strikes…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-03-05:2036984:Comment:258782009-03-05T04:16:33.884ZBassandgrasshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/Bassandgrass
I would miss a lot of strikes when fishing wet flies deep with a floating line due to the bend in the leader from the bead head fly sinking while the fly line stayed on the surface. I since switched to a sinking line when fishing deeper than 8 ft and have increased my hook ups exponentially. Hope this helps.
I would miss a lot of strikes when fishing wet flies deep with a floating line due to the bend in the leader from the bead head fly sinking while the fly line stayed on the surface. I since switched to a sinking line when fishing deeper than 8 ft and have increased my hook ups exponentially. Hope this helps. i try to keep my rod at 10'o…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-03-03:2036984:Comment:254452009-03-03T02:18:18.902Zshooterhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/shooter
i try to keep my rod at 10'o clock ,but sometimes the situation ie under trees exc will not allow this.<br />
the higher rod angle lets the rod take some of the shock of the strike and with light tippets ,it is easy to break off a good fish if you are not careful.<br />
the strip set that Mike spoke of allows you to set the hook with out putting too much strain on that light tippet,again allowing the rod to do it's job.<br />
i use a lot of floating line ,but i also use intermediate sink,and fast sink,without…
i try to keep my rod at 10'o clock ,but sometimes the situation ie under trees exc will not allow this.<br />
the higher rod angle lets the rod take some of the shock of the strike and with light tippets ,it is easy to break off a good fish if you are not careful.<br />
the strip set that Mike spoke of allows you to set the hook with out putting too much strain on that light tippet,again allowing the rod to do it's job.<br />
i use a lot of floating line ,but i also use intermediate sink,and fast sink,without getting to tied up in this line watching thing. if you start with a good floating line and learn to watch that line you will pick up the lightest strike,it just takes time behind the rod.<br />
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gators can't fly I assume you are using a floa…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-03-02:2036984:Comment:254012009-03-02T20:42:24.935ZDavid Mericalhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/DavidMerical
I assume you are using a floating fly line?<br />
Complete your cast. Drop your rod tip to about 6"-12" above the water, and as quickly as possible, retrieve enough line to get the slack out of the line. Once the slack is gone, you can use whatever retrieve cadence the fish like (jerk-jerk-pause, for example). As soon as you see the strike on the fly, or the end of your fly line will stop or move backwards away from you, you can set the hook. Many fly-anglers like to use a "strip-set", which is…
I assume you are using a floating fly line?<br />
Complete your cast. Drop your rod tip to about 6"-12" above the water, and as quickly as possible, retrieve enough line to get the slack out of the line. Once the slack is gone, you can use whatever retrieve cadence the fish like (jerk-jerk-pause, for example). As soon as you see the strike on the fly, or the end of your fly line will stop or move backwards away from you, you can set the hook. Many fly-anglers like to use a "strip-set", which is simply pulling the fly line toward and behind you. The advantage of this is that if you miss the fish, the fly is still in the vicinity of the fish.<br />
You can also set by lifting the rod tip quickly, just like you would to make another cast. This pulls the fly away quickly, so your fly is no longer in the vicinity of the fish if you happen to miss. But with your hand still on the line, you can usually quickly cast the fly right back into the same spot.<br />
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Try some different ways, and see what works best for you, and that you are comfortable doing quickly. Soon, your successful technique will simply become second nature. Dear Lord... I was raised in…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-03-02:2036984:Comment:253812009-03-02T18:21:18.654Zrobsablokehttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/robsabloke
Dear Lord... I was raised in England and Quills are still very popular there. I have a box full of English and european floats... the quills are extremely sensitive and will tell you what's going on. I think I'll try the float and cricket thing instead of the "Traditional" fly fishing... sounds like fun.<br />
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You can also "Shot" a float in a manner that will show "Lift" bites. .(when a fish hits your offering on the way down) ... can be deadly...<br />
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Thanks<br />
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Rob
Dear Lord... I was raised in England and Quills are still very popular there. I have a box full of English and european floats... the quills are extremely sensitive and will tell you what's going on. I think I'll try the float and cricket thing instead of the "Traditional" fly fishing... sounds like fun.<br />
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You can also "Shot" a float in a manner that will show "Lift" bites. .(when a fish hits your offering on the way down) ... can be deadly...<br />
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Thanks<br />
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Rob well mike the older i get the…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-02-28:2036984:Comment:250262009-02-28T13:32:07.549Zshooterhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/shooter
well mike the older i get the more i look for an edge on the mighty gill,as i am sure you know they can get real funny on the take some times.<br />
that line is where the rubber meets the road so to speak,if you can't see that bump you can't get the hook in'um.<br />
i use a lot of Orvis Advantage it comes in yellow and is real easy to see,the red line i spoke of i found on ebay ,man you can get some good deals on fly line there.<br />
i do believe a strike indicator slows down the hook set,i like you am a line…
well mike the older i get the more i look for an edge on the mighty gill,as i am sure you know they can get real funny on the take some times.<br />
that line is where the rubber meets the road so to speak,if you can't see that bump you can't get the hook in'um.<br />
i use a lot of Orvis Advantage it comes in yellow and is real easy to see,the red line i spoke of i found on ebay ,man you can get some good deals on fly line there.<br />
i do believe a strike indicator slows down the hook set,i like you am a line watcher you can tell what is going on at the end of the leader ,i swear i can tell if a fish swims by mine .<br />
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i hate duck grass mike that's good "strip strik…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-02-28:2036984:Comment:250122009-02-28T11:13:53.045Zshooterhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/shooter
mike that's good "strip strike" i have been doing it all my life but never put a name to it ,we never use a float or strike indicator of any kind.<br />
i use yellow,white,and red fly line,i had to order the red from England,could not find it in the USA.i do a lot of fishing through duck grass and a contrasting line color helps me see those bumps a lot better.<br />
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mike that's good "strip strike" i have been doing it all my life but never put a name to it ,we never use a float or strike indicator of any kind.<br />
i use yellow,white,and red fly line,i had to order the red from England,could not find it in the USA.i do a lot of fishing through duck grass and a contrasting line color helps me see those bumps a lot better.<br />
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gators can't fly Good advice Mike - modest rod…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-02-28:2036984:Comment:250092009-02-28T06:27:21.870ZTom Hudsonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TomHudson
Good advice Mike - modest rod tip raise and a nice strip. I can't wait for the snow to stop in NE so I can give it a shot!
Good advice Mike - modest rod tip raise and a nice strip. I can't wait for the snow to stop in NE so I can give it a shot! Hi Rob, Bluegill always weigh…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-02-28:2036984:Comment:249772009-02-28T03:07:41.375ZLord of the Fly , Rodshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LordoftheFlyRods
Hi Rob, Bluegill always weight till to take your eyes off the floater, strike indicator, cork,or anything else you use before they strike, they are trained that way. I must be the last person in America to use porcupine quills as strike indicators. They are the most sensitive way to tell if a bream licking a cricket or just waiting for you to turn your head. I must admit it makes it a little more difficult to cast but the ability to detect strikes is unbeatable. Depth can be adjusted as quick…
Hi Rob, Bluegill always weight till to take your eyes off the floater, strike indicator, cork,or anything else you use before they strike, they are trained that way. I must be the last person in America to use porcupine quills as strike indicators. They are the most sensitive way to tell if a bream licking a cricket or just waiting for you to turn your head. I must admit it makes it a little more difficult to cast but the ability to detect strikes is unbeatable. Depth can be adjusted as quick as blinking an eye, and after you run out of crickets you can take the quill off and cast your flyline with an artifical fly with surprising accuracy and distance, it's a wax on, wax off kind of thing. If you catch me on the water filling the boat I'm using a quill. I fish dries exclusively for…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2009-02-28:2036984:Comment:249732009-02-28T02:50:13.835ZTom Hudsonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TomHudson
I fish dries exclusively for trout but have not mastered, nor seem to find the time, to tie my own.<br />
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I'm headed over the the forum.
I fish dries exclusively for trout but have not mastered, nor seem to find the time, to tie my own.<br />
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I'm headed over the the forum.