ESB BOBBERS - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T08:58:48Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/esb-bobbers?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A128590&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLet the Revolution Begin -
J…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-03-02:2036984:Comment:1288942011-03-02T05:38:05.614ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>Let the Revolution Begin - </p>
<p><a href="http://bigbluegill.com/forum/topics/bobber-fishing-revolution" target="_self">Join The Revolution - Live Bait Fishing Study</a>\</p>
<p>Please let me know what you think.</p>
<p>I have to start logging the results of people's rigs and diagraming. </p>
<p>REMEMBER - change nothing on your favorite rig & presentation. Just fish it, and record - that is the first part of the mission to see everyone fishing, and how we all fish. Great details to…</p>
<p>Let the Revolution Begin - </p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://bigbluegill.com/forum/topics/bobber-fishing-revolution">Join The Revolution - Live Bait Fishing Study</a>\</p>
<p>Please let me know what you think.</p>
<p>I have to start logging the results of people's rigs and diagraming. </p>
<p>REMEMBER - change nothing on your favorite rig & presentation. Just fish it, and record - that is the first part of the mission to see everyone fishing, and how we all fish. Great details to start - you have the concept down on the reporting. It will be my job to catalog.</p>
<p>Give me some feedback on the Revolution - all thoughts.</p> The split shot I use ,I atta…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-03-01:2036984:Comment:1288892011-03-01T17:39:11.568ZLord of the Fly , Rodshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LordoftheFlyRods
The split shot I use ,I attach to my line 6 to 8 inches above the hook to sink the cricket, I balance the quill with split shot so that about 2-3 inches is sticking out of the water horizonally ,so the quill is floating straight up.I use 10 lb test flouracarbon as my leader, invisible underwater, and #8 wire hooks, if I get hung up I just pull straight on line to free the snag, and bend hook back. We have open water all year long right now it crappie season down here, then we move on to…
The split shot I use ,I attach to my line 6 to 8 inches above the hook to sink the cricket, I balance the quill with split shot so that about 2-3 inches is sticking out of the water horizonally ,so the quill is floating straight up.I use 10 lb test flouracarbon as my leader, invisible underwater, and #8 wire hooks, if I get hung up I just pull straight on line to free the snag, and bend hook back. We have open water all year long right now it crappie season down here, then we move on to bluegill, and fill in with smallmouth bass and catfish and trout and walleye.The walleye start running this month. 1/10th as exciting? Man I hav…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1287052011-02-28T14:12:21.320ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>1/10th as exciting? Man I havent done any fishing in years - Im a "returnee." It used to be all I did - 4+ times per week. But times change. SO now Im gonna have a go again.</p>
<p>Im very determined sort of fellow. I have never been a "bass man," so I've decided that brim and catfish will be my focus. I will be happy to participate and will take notes, as you ask. In fact, Im dropping off my tax documents this AM and will visit one of the local waters on my way home.</p>
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<p>TTYL</p>
<p>1/10th as exciting? Man I havent done any fishing in years - Im a "returnee." It used to be all I did - 4+ times per week. But times change. SO now Im gonna have a go again.</p>
<p>Im very determined sort of fellow. I have never been a "bass man," so I've decided that brim and catfish will be my focus. I will be happy to participate and will take notes, as you ask. In fact, Im dropping off my tax documents this AM and will visit one of the local waters on my way home.</p>
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<p>TTYL</p> I guess I tell you all all m…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1284742011-02-28T04:17:56.527ZLord of the Fly , Rodshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LordoftheFlyRods
I guess I tell you all all my secrets tonight, as for break away leaders I dont use them , I use 10 lb test floracarbon line, invisible underwater, and a #8 longshank wire hook, when hung up all you have to do is pull straight on the line with your hand and it will bend the hook and nothing is disturbed, then just bend the hook back into shape put on a fresh cricket and your back in business. I have pulled 14 lb catfish in with this set up. A 14 lb catfish on a flyrod is a thrill. So add this…
I guess I tell you all all my secrets tonight, as for break away leaders I dont use them , I use 10 lb test floracarbon line, invisible underwater, and a #8 longshank wire hook, when hung up all you have to do is pull straight on the line with your hand and it will bend the hook and nothing is disturbed, then just bend the hook back into shape put on a fresh cricket and your back in business. I have pulled 14 lb catfish in with this set up. A 14 lb catfish on a flyrod is a thrill. So add this with the porcupine quill technology and it's an old school system thats hard to beat. LOFR When we break down your targe…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1284712011-02-28T04:09:22.210ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>When we break down your targeted backwaters (some of my favorite fishing by the way) - we may find you going entirely waggler-free.</p>
<p>If you are joining the Revolution - I would only have you record this month's fishing and make some notes on fishing in the recent past. Remember - there are millions of people out there who would go to the wall and pull off the rack what you have. </p>
<p>The mission of this exercise which I hope you will follow through with this.</p>
<p>Your setups…</p>
<p>When we break down your targeted backwaters (some of my favorite fishing by the way) - we may find you going entirely waggler-free.</p>
<p>If you are joining the Revolution - I would only have you record this month's fishing and make some notes on fishing in the recent past. Remember - there are millions of people out there who would go to the wall and pull off the rack what you have. </p>
<p>The mission of this exercise which I hope you will follow through with this.</p>
<p>Your setups with the cigar slip floats and springers is a favorite of many and it is my hope that we show some data, enjoy the exercise and come through this as a group. I had Thill Wagglers, spring bobbers and even small red & whites, but then I went to a fishing show and saw fishing gear that made no sense. </p>
<p>The next thing I knew- the next time I met, my teacher had me working a 40-foot pole with no reel. I caught 6 - 5lb. fish back-to-back as the light fell on our venue. I went from shaking, fumbling and ultra-awkward to astonished in a manner of two hours.</p>
<p>I hope this could be 1/10th as exciting for you and that what I learned and am passing on to our Revolution group you will also pass on to your friends, neighbors, neighborhood kids and groups near you. </p>
<p>Yes- everyone can help and I need all floats, all water types and many states represented. Every single setup is important to me thank you for sharing.</p>
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<p>Johnny</p> About the coarse wagglers, I'…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1286942011-02-28T02:26:02.729ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p>About the coarse wagglers, I'm focusing on backwaters this season. Thats not to say I wont go to the big lakes and rivers... but they wont be my focus. I expect that I may have to modify the wagglers somewhat, and I didnt give a lot of money for them. I see them more as the raw material for hybridizing, than as cure-all.</p>
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<p>Id be happy to volunteer in your study. Do you have a compiled questionnaire for the control data you need? I think it would be efficient and helpful for the…</p>
<p>About the coarse wagglers, I'm focusing on backwaters this season. Thats not to say I wont go to the big lakes and rivers... but they wont be my focus. I expect that I may have to modify the wagglers somewhat, and I didnt give a lot of money for them. I see them more as the raw material for hybridizing, than as cure-all.</p>
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<p>Id be happy to volunteer in your study. Do you have a compiled questionnaire for the control data you need? I think it would be efficient and helpful for the participants if it was presented to them this way. If I can help with that, just let me know.</p>
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<p>Ive taken all the red/white cannonball bobbers out of my box; all that remain are 1 3/8" cigar slip floats, and a few springers. I was planning to "hybridize" them, but I could leave them be....</p>
<p>Let me know if I can help with the questionnaire.</p> Well you are on the track! Re…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1282532011-02-28T00:55:48.679ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>Well you are on the track! Remember that course stuff often deals with what they call tidlers - really small fish. Their course tackle is also for pay pond fish which lack the bursts our wild fish have. </p>
<p>Their tackle as a whole is way too light for the U.S. Keep this in mind when trying to order as when I started I ordered things that I never ended up using.</p>
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<p>I will need a bunch of people to participate with their setups - If you want to volunteer with the ESBs I need…</p>
<p>Well you are on the track! Remember that course stuff often deals with what they call tidlers - really small fish. Their course tackle is also for pay pond fish which lack the bursts our wild fish have. </p>
<p>Their tackle as a whole is way too light for the U.S. Keep this in mind when trying to order as when I started I ordered things that I never ended up using.</p>
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<p>I will need a bunch of people to participate with their setups - If you want to volunteer with the ESBs I need the setups etc. - all setups are needed. I am also planning to provide some tackle - rigged for your waters as well as some bait. </p>
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<p>The change would be two-fold (and detailed instructions will be sent on executing some new tactics)- first however, I really really need some data on how people currently fish and their setups., where they fish. Details to follow.</p>
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<p>Live bait anglers & Float anglers (I hope this shapes up to some really really good stuff!)...</p> Pictured here are some good f…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1282522011-02-28T00:50:06.061ZDavid, aka, "McScruff"http://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/david553
<p><em>Pictured here are some good floats - they are all narrow. The float in the middle is ideal for a slider because the ring at the bottom will allow the line to pass. The trouble with the majority of products from Europe is that they fish with 3 lb., 2 lb. and even 1 lb. line. The green float shows what I mean in that the eye can't be seen so there is no way you are going to get a 4 lb. Trilene (or what I refer to as boat rope) through that eye. </em></p>
<p>As far as the small line-feed…</p>
<p><em>Pictured here are some good floats - they are all narrow. The float in the middle is ideal for a slider because the ring at the bottom will allow the line to pass. The trouble with the majority of products from Europe is that they fish with 3 lb., 2 lb. and even 1 lb. line. The green float shows what I mean in that the eye can't be seen so there is no way you are going to get a 4 lb. Trilene (or what I refer to as boat rope) through that eye. </em></p>
<p>As far as the small line-feed holes, couldn't you enlarge them, if needed?</p>
<p>As for breakaway leaders – I want to catch that big catfish! So I'm after a compromise. But I do get your point on light lines. I'm having trouble finding 2lb. test line, at least at my local WallyWorld. I made a couple of test floats this weekend. Pretty much inspired by what you have shown here. One is like a waggler with a slight “bulge” at the bottom. I'm thinking the buoyancy near the lower end will help the “flag” section (waggler) upset and signal easier. The other is one of the small sort you have on the right in the pic. All I did was add a small eye at the bottom. I wonder if I will hear the brim sneeze?</p>
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<p><em>For the most part- you want to avoid:</em></p>
<p><em>Plastic, Foam and Round - I know that might be much of what is in your tackle box.</em></p>
<p><em>Who is willing to take make the move this Spring?</em></p>
<p>I couldn't have said it better. I'm working on it already. 'Have some coarse wagglers on the way and am working out the production details to make my own floats. Strictly for personal use! Balsa, dowels and wire loops – that's about it!</p>
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<p>Love this bobber stuff. Can't wait to see the results you compile as the season progresses.</p> Perfect -
This is a nice adju…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-28:2036984:Comment:1284572011-02-28T00:40:49.293ZJohnny wilkinshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/chicagofishing
<p>Perfect -</p>
<p>This is a nice adjustable waggler rig and those o-rings are great. Dental bands are also a suitable replacement (dentists can get you a pack of 100 for cheap) -</p>
<p>I will be setting up the other discussion for all to sign in for the Revolution</p>
<p>This is ADVANCED so please when the other discussion is put up - please weigh in with your setups if you want in on the bobber study. I want spring bobbers and every setup imaginable for certain.</p>
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<p>This is a nice adjustable waggler rig and those o-rings are great. Dental bands are also a suitable replacement (dentists can get you a pack of 100 for cheap) -</p>
<p>I will be setting up the other discussion for all to sign in for the Revolution</p>
<p>This is ADVANCED so please when the other discussion is put up - please weigh in with your setups if you want in on the bobber study. I want spring bobbers and every setup imaginable for certain.</p> It's a simple o-ring that th…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2011-02-27:2036984:Comment:1284512011-02-27T22:05:51.401ZLord of the Fly , Rodshttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LordoftheFlyRods
It's a simple o-ring that that you can find at any hardware dept in the sprayer section, works better than a rubber band, and you can get them in different sizes for different size quills, they hole the line tight and can allow the depth adjustment to be made in a fraction of a second. Also keeps quill in parallel with the line during casting.The loop at the bottom is just a guide for the leader to go through, but it has to be large enough for the fly line to go through also if you are really…
It's a simple o-ring that that you can find at any hardware dept in the sprayer section, works better than a rubber band, and you can get them in different sizes for different size quills, they hole the line tight and can allow the depth adjustment to be made in a fraction of a second. Also keeps quill in parallel with the line during casting.The loop at the bottom is just a guide for the leader to go through, but it has to be large enough for the fly line to go through also if you are really going deep past your leader.<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167384031?profile=original"><img width="640" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167384031?profile=original" class="align-full"/></a>