Coppernose ???? - Bluegill - Big Bluegill2024-03-29T07:15:29Zhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/forum/topics/coppernose?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A717960&feed=yes&xn_auth=noReceipts for the fish in the…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-05-08:2036984:Comment:7201672017-05-08T13:00:40.360ZLong Creek Arkiehttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/MontyMadden
<p>Receipts for the fish in the pictures, you be the judge.</p>
<p>Receipts for the fish in the pictures, you be the judge.</p> Every time there's a stocking…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-20:2036984:Comment:7181832017-04-20T14:45:11.904ZLeo Nguyenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Every time there's a stocking, ensure to take photos of the stockers. Pick a handful of random stockers for each species. Many hatchery claim to stock something, but we tend to find information a bit different for some hatcheries. Always be on the side of caution.</p>
<p>Every time there's a stocking, ensure to take photos of the stockers. Pick a handful of random stockers for each species. Many hatchery claim to stock something, but we tend to find information a bit different for some hatcheries. Always be on the side of caution.</p> Visit Pond Boss. Tony is over…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-20:2036984:Comment:7181822017-04-20T14:41:23.428ZLeo Nguyenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>Visit <a href="http://forums.pondboss.com/" target="_blank">Pond Boss</a>. Tony is over there, as well as quite a few pondmeisters of high caliber, with decades of experience in dealing with the same issue that you have.</p>
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<p>You've indicated that the pond was stocked with LMB as well. Before you start posting in Pond Boss, make sure to collect all the info so they they can assist you properly:</p>
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<p>1. How big the pond is (length, width, depth, and total volume in each…</p>
<p>Visit <a href="http://forums.pondboss.com/" target="_blank">Pond Boss</a>. Tony is over there, as well as quite a few pondmeisters of high caliber, with decades of experience in dealing with the same issue that you have.</p>
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<p>You've indicated that the pond was stocked with LMB as well. Before you start posting in Pond Boss, make sure to collect all the info so they they can assist you properly:</p>
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<p>1. How big the pond is (length, width, depth, and total volume in each area since stocking and maintaining them are games of proper balancing).</p>
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<p>2. Be precise at how much was stock per species, their approximate sizes (full grown, year-of-young, or somewhere in between), since they can estimate the predation level from each species.</p>
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<p>3. Feeding.</p>
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<p>4. Pond management technique and observation, which include weathers (affecting water temperature, biological, and oxygen load). Remember, improper maintenance can kill the more sensitive fishes, while the stronger and hardier one live on. Coppernose is one of the sensitive fishes when it comes to fluctuating temperature.</p>
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<p>You'll see us over there. I'm more of the technical and regulatory guide. Plenty of experts in providing biological and proven methods to deal with your pond.</p> All fish came from the hatche…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-20:2036984:Comment:7179602017-04-20T13:53:57.653ZLong Creek Arkiehttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/MontyMadden
<p>All fish came from the hatchery, No other way where this pond is.</p>
<p>All fish came from the hatchery, No other way where this pond is.</p> Tony, This pond was dug down…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-18:2036984:Comment:7178112017-04-18T03:49:24.642ZLong Creek Arkiehttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/MontyMadden
<p> Tony, This pond was dug down to dry clay, no ditches and no other ponds anywhere. The fish in the pond all came from the hatchery. What I ordered was two pounds minows, 500 Coppernose, 100 Redears and after one year 100 large mouths bass. The first year fish may have eat all the bass because I've not caught any. Between fish and food I have a thousand dollars in the pond and I wood rather not kill everything. What would you recommend to put in to keep the Greenies under control and how big…</p>
<p> Tony, This pond was dug down to dry clay, no ditches and no other ponds anywhere. The fish in the pond all came from the hatchery. What I ordered was two pounds minows, 500 Coppernose, 100 Redears and after one year 100 large mouths bass. The first year fish may have eat all the bass because I've not caught any. Between fish and food I have a thousand dollars in the pond and I wood rather not kill everything. What would you recommend to put in to keep the Greenies under control and how big would they have to be? Thank You very much for your help.</p> Best to keep the population l…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-18:2036984:Comment:7179052017-04-18T02:26:11.129ZLeo Nguyenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
Best to keep the population low to maximize the growth size. It's fun to catch them as much as you can, but quality is definitely better than quantity. Overpollulation will stunt their growth. But mass culling for meals will definitely stop that issue. I can eat 20 to 30 per meals.
Best to keep the population low to maximize the growth size. It's fun to catch them as much as you can, but quality is definitely better than quantity. Overpollulation will stunt their growth. But mass culling for meals will definitely stop that issue. I can eat 20 to 30 per meals. Well, if it were me, I would…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-18:2036984:Comment:7179022017-04-18T01:29:20.361ZTony Livingstonhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/TonyLivingston
<p>Well, if it were me, I would want to know exactly where the Greenies came from. It's certainly possible they came from the hatchery, but most folks would be astounded to learn just how easy it is to move fish from one body of water to another. And green sunfish are masters at it. Is there a creek, spring, drainage ditch that empties into your pond, even one that goes dry at certain times of the year? How about another body of water in your watershed, that might have overflowed into your pond…</p>
<p>Well, if it were me, I would want to know exactly where the Greenies came from. It's certainly possible they came from the hatchery, but most folks would be astounded to learn just how easy it is to move fish from one body of water to another. And green sunfish are masters at it. Is there a creek, spring, drainage ditch that empties into your pond, even one that goes dry at certain times of the year? How about another body of water in your watershed, that might have overflowed into your pond during a hard rain... any neighbors have ponds?</p>
<p>Green sunfish have actually been documented jumping UP into a spillpipe, and attempting to swim upstream to a pond. They are resilient!</p>
<p>My point is, it's possible to kill off a pond and start over, but it's pointless if there's always going to be greenies getting in somewhere, AND their presence detracts from your goals. If you don't mind them, you can still have a very nice pond with some appropriate, additional stocking.</p>
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<p></p> I'm still scratching my head…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-17:2036984:Comment:7177102017-04-17T18:10:47.679ZLeo Nguyenhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/LeoNguyen
<p>I'm still scratching my head on this. There are quite a few specialists both here and at pondboss.com as well. Tony is one of those specialists. I'm just working in tandem with pondmeisters and am still learning the genetic blending. It's crazy.</p>
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<p>As Tony and John pointed out, #7839 is a definitely green sunfish.</p>
<p>#1267 has a genetic markers of a green sunfish, and crossovers with other sunfishes. Careful of those black dots, which are n<span>easci (<span>Neascus). Mouth,…</span></span></p>
<p>I'm still scratching my head on this. There are quite a few specialists both here and at pondboss.com as well. Tony is one of those specialists. I'm just working in tandem with pondmeisters and am still learning the genetic blending. It's crazy.</p>
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<p>As Tony and John pointed out, #7839 is a definitely green sunfish.</p>
<p>#1267 has a genetic markers of a green sunfish, and crossovers with other sunfishes. Careful of those black dots, which are n<span>easci (<span>Neascus). Mouth, breast, and tail are off. Can't really pin point. Photo is a tad lack on details on the dorsal fins to bring a bit more details into light.</span></span></p>
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<p><span><span>#1756 looks like a pumpseed mixed with the green sunfish (uniqueness of the dorsal, tail, anal fins). Green sunfish genetic markers definitely take dominant.</span></span></p>
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<p><span><span>Since Tony is a pro at the green sunfish and hybrid variants, #2604, #2639, and #9077 are his speciality. None are coppernose. Coppernose is quite abundant in our waters here in California. Sonny (aka Ledhead) is known for the fantastic captures of the huge coppernoses (<a href="http://bigbluegill.com/photo/010-12?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A449735" target="_blank">http://bigbluegill.com/photo/010-12?commentId=2036984%3AComment%3A449735</a>).</span></span></p> Thank You Carl. Well Tony how…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-17:2036984:Comment:7175792017-04-17T17:43:37.213ZLong Creek Arkiehttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/MontyMadden
<p>Thank You Carl. Well Tony how about it, what should I do ?</p>
<p>Thank You Carl. Well Tony how about it, what should I do ?</p> JUST FOR THOUGHT HERE;; AND (…tag:bigbluegill.ning.com,2017-04-17:2036984:Comment:7176052017-04-17T17:32:28.606Zcarl hendrixhttp://bigbluegill.ning.com/profile/carlhendrix
<p>JUST FOR THOUGHT HERE;; AND ( MUSIC MAN ) JOHN;; IS QUITE CORRECT;; TONY;; IS A WALKING BIO KING WHEN IT COMES TO RAISING BLUE GILLS !! IN MY OWN OPPINION;; TONY HAS FORGOT MORE; ABOUT BLUE GILLS;; THAN MOST OF US KNOW !</p>
<p>JUST FOR THOUGHT HERE;; AND ( MUSIC MAN ) JOHN;; IS QUITE CORRECT;; TONY;; IS A WALKING BIO KING WHEN IT COMES TO RAISING BLUE GILLS !! IN MY OWN OPPINION;; TONY HAS FORGOT MORE; ABOUT BLUE GILLS;; THAN MOST OF US KNOW !</p>